Roll triggers nudge cooldown

[Umbra]

If you attempt a kick after you stand up from a roll you will hunch over and fail like you did a nudge recently.

Its retarded. Please fix.

[Kalp]

roll

Its retarded. Please fix.

Fixed.

[Latvian]

about damn time you realise that nobody will fix anything in this mod

[San]

I finally found it after a while. Wasn't in the first file I thought. I can remove roll's reliance on the nudge timer and the need to release attack and block if there's enough support (I would personally like it, lol).

[Utrakil]

I finally found it after a while. Wasn't in the first file I thought. I can remove roll's reliance on the nudge timer and the need to release attack and block if there's enough support (I would personally like it, lol).

I support

[Umbra]

Do it bro, doesent make any sense currently

[San]

I'm just not sure about this after a while. Won't trying to attack someone when they get up from a roll only to get kicked/nudged be a little aggravating?

[Gravoth_iii]

I finally found it after a while. Wasn't in the first file I thought. I can remove roll's reliance on the nudge timer and the need to release attack and block if there's enough support (I would personally like it, lol).

Duuud, seriously.. do it.

Rolls are amazing, only thing making them annoying is being inconsistent. About nudge and kicks not being usable after roll, i agree they should have separate cooldowns. I dont see why not, getting kicked going after someone who's rolling probably gets predictable and punishable after the first time you see it/gets hit by it.


Knockdowns are all bullshit, if you honestly dislike rolls then you should probably find new ways of killing more than hitting someone on the ground tbh.

[San]

I like roll as an escape, but I think you should still get punished for a dumb roll. Invicibility frames into a kick/nudge is kinda... I could still be convinced though, I'm just hesitant.

For now, I just changed until someone yells at me to revert:
-Removing having to release left click/right click for roll to trigger, making it easier to input
-Roll has a separate cooldown to avoid being unable to roll twice, but it still triggers the nudge cooldown at the moment
-Reduced timing window from 5-45% to 0-30%
-Toned down the distance and "ghosting time" which I hope are invincibility frames
-Adjusted roll distance weight penalty and strength save

[korppis]

Sounds like a good change! I know some people never got rolling to work so maybe now it's easier for them and new peeps. Not sure that timing window reduction was necessary tho.

[San]

I think missing the timing if you're unprepared should be a thing, or kd weapons would be even worse with easier inputs. I can't test roll easily, so I hope it wasn't made too harsh.

[MURDERTRON]

Roll is an already broken mechanic that should be tweaked or removed considering you are completely invincible during parts of it.  Which, mind you, is the only time you're invincible in this mod.  There is no reason to give roll abusers any concessions.

[Gravoth_iii]

Roll is an already broken mechanic that should be tweaked or removed considering you are completely invincible during parts of it.  Which, mind you, is the only time you're invincible in this mod.  There is no reason to give roll abusers any concessions.

Rolling is working as intended, nothing wrong with it. Bumps and knockdowns are bullshit, rolls make it possible to atleast not get hit by cheap swings on the ground if you are fast on the buttons. I dont really see how they would need tweaking except for making them work more reliably.

[San]

I tightened the timing from 5-45% to 0-30% and that was too harsh. Next patch should have it at 0-40%.

[722_]

Is it the same window for getting knocked down by a horse and by a players weapon? I always seem to have a much easier time rolling from a horse knock-down but it could just be because I can see that coming