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Offline Dwarden

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 11:02:19 pm »
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there is something wrong with repairs because
i had N gold
enough to make all repairs
 i repaired manually items

result
0 gold left
nothing repaired ...


bit sad ...

also 500 repairs on bow and 200 on each arrow ... ouch ...

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 11:04:20 pm »
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There is a way. All he has to do to is to remove time multiplier (minutes x 4% breaking chance) but then upkeep won't serve it's purpose and there would be even more tincans than before this patch.

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 11:26:14 pm »
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there is another problem in the damage system

you not die
you not get damaged

all your items become damaged ...

what the hell is this

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2011, 11:31:56 pm »
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Please stop these useless threads. Look for old threads with all the math done, one guy even did a simulation of 1000 rounds, you don't need to play 7 rounds and post the results here, we have data of 1k rounds already. Results are:

Assuming you lose every round, you can afford 25k gold worth of equipment. If you have more at 1x, you lose gold. This is very simple math if you cannot do it (linear equation) then go back to school, don't waste your life on videogames without getting a proper education. Waste it later.

Assuming you win half the rounds you can afford 48500 gold worth of equipment.

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2011, 11:41:50 pm »
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there is another problem in the damage system

you not die
you not get damaged

all your items become damaged ...

what the hell is this

If you don't get damaged you're a hiding leecher and that's your punishment.  Otherwise it's simply logical to have battledamage whether you win or lose.  Armor gets beat on, it'll need to be fixed.
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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2011, 11:51:21 pm »
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Please stop these useless threads. Look for old threads with all the math done, one guy even did a simulation of 1000 rounds, you don't need to play 7 rounds and post the results here, we have data of 1k rounds already. Results are:

Assuming you lose every round, you can afford 25k gold worth of equipment. If you have more at 1x, you lose gold. This is very simple math if you cannot do it (linear equation) then go back to school, don't waste your life on videogames without getting a proper education. Waste it later.

Assuming you win half the rounds you can afford 48500 gold worth of equipment.

something is wrong then cause i can even loose money with only <20k equip while winning half the rounds on siege ...
maybe the game should not pushing with repairs for
1. winning round with <25% damage
2. no death / damage obtained both win/loss round
3. round where you were teamkilled
« Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 11:53:42 pm by Dwarden »

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2011, 11:53:42 pm »
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something is wrong then cause i can even loose money with only <20k equipemnet while winning half the rounds on siege ...

Siege is just terrible.  I played on the siege server for about 2 hours last night and all it was is a constant drain of gold.
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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2011, 11:54:38 pm »
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so because we like the game mode we deserve this punishment  :shock:

the system needs lot of fixing and tweaking that's all

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2011, 11:59:35 pm »
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[quoteAssuming you lose every round, you can afford 25k gold worth of equipment. If you have more at 1x, you lose gold. This is very simple math if you cannot do it (linear equation) then go back to school, don't waste your life on videogames without getting a proper education. Waste it later][/quote]

I rly dobout. explain to mehow did I lose 6k wearing 12k worth armour?? Im playing a serius number of hours the same set and I made 4k so far as I was lucky to have the x5 multiplayer but still I have 2k lost. with such maths I cant upkeep plates not to mention buy one if I wouldn have one already. There is to much LUCK involved  to play with upkeeping stuff...

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2011, 12:12:31 am »
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Upkeep is a nice idea :) realy. BUT cRPG is a game, and players (me too) enjoy playing what they LOVE, some like to play as a cav, some like to play as plate, some like to play as ninja, some are str player and some are agi player. Playing agi give more wpf, speed, parade rapidity and BY that do not need heavy armor, the way they play don't requiered body protection, their best protection IS their agi. For them, upkeep is not a problem..

BUT some players enjoy playing str char, who are slower, realy slower, do less dmg but are in front of melee, fight face to face with enemy, they strike 1 time when they agi friends strike 3 times.

THIS IS A WAY TO PLAY. 

mail / agi build is good AS plate/str character.


Reducing the possibility for players to play with the stuff they worked hard for earning is stupid, let's PLATE COME BACK, IT's JUST A CLASSE,A WAY TO PLAY, not a sort of overpowerd item we use.

Now, for wearing plate, we're oblige to play many many many round in realy light gear. It's a pitty and for what mh? what's the aim? Creating a peasant fight mod?

PLEASE look at Donjons and dragons rules, two way to play a warrior, heavy (plate and slow) and light (light armor and fast) . Both are deadly, both are cool, both are nice, why can't we get this here? (and plz dont answer me : go play dnd with your nerd friend)

AGI /STR , two way, two classes of warrior, two different kind of stuff.
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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2011, 12:27:45 am »
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[quoteAssuming you lose every round, you can afford 25k gold worth of equipment. If you have more at 1x, you lose gold. This is very simple math if you cannot do it (linear equation) then go back to school, don't waste your life on videogames without getting a proper education. Waste it later]

I rly dobout. explain to mehow did I lose 6k wearing 12k worth armour?? Im playing a serius number of hours the same set and I made 4k so far as I was lucky to have the x5 multiplayer but still I have 2k lost. with such maths I cant upkeep plates not to mention buy one if I wouldn have one already. There is to much LUCK involved  to play with upkeeping stuff...

That math is based on the data we have and until yesterday it was accurate. Today i have to play a few more rounds to tell, i got a bad repair streak as well. But since it was correct and there has been no new patch, i assume it's just bad luck.

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2011, 12:32:37 am »
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Siege is just terrible.  I played on the siege server for about 2 hours last night and all it was is a constant drain of gold.

I only play siege and I made 50K gold since the patch release.
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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2011, 12:51:02 am »
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I only play siege and I made 50K gold since the patch release.

Well right on then, see even that has no issues.
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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2011, 01:14:32 am »
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I hated the first patch, but this second one is fan-tastic.

If anyone complains just offer them some cheese.

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Re: [upkeep] 12 rounds in a row
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2011, 01:27:55 am »
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I only play siege and I made 50K gold since the patch release.

Me too. Siege is sweet. I even bought a heraldic transitional, because why the fuck not, I have all the money in the world - used it only once since then.

Really man, just switch to weaker gear once in a while. Change your horse to sumpter or palfrey, keep some shitty leather armor or something. Also, you REALLY hit a losing streak, had to (this phrase still sound stupid) repair your horse way more often than normal.
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