Revival patch build thread

[Umbra]

He doesent need a shield tbh, go with the 1st build

[Kasigi_Yabu]

When it comes to 1h cav
Should I go with 18/24

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Level 37 (110 099 555 xp)

Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 8
Riding: 8
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 184
Two Handed: 30
Polearm: 35
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

or 21/21?

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Level 37 (110 099 555 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 21
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
Riding: 7
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 170
Two Handed: 27
Polearm: 27
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

[Umbra]

I would say 18/24. 1h cav i guess you need to be as mobile as possible.

Also, i think that PS 6 + more speed bonus from more riding > 7 ps + less speed bonus

[Hearst_]

My main Hearst ll be

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Level 37 (569 113 792 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 27
    Hit points: 58

    Converted: 12
    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 9
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 9

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 187
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

And spammer biatch LiveYourLife

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Level 36 (284 556 896 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 32
    Hit points: 50

    Converted: 12
    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 10
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 10

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 194
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

[karasu]

My main Hearst ll be

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Level 37 (569 113 792 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 27
    Hit points: 58

    Converted: 12
    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 9
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 9

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 187
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

And spammer biatch LiveYourLife

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Level 36 (284 556 896 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 32
    Hit points: 50

    Converted: 12
    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 10
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 10

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 194
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Them wpf penalties :p

[Lars]

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Level: 35
Health Points: 70
Weapon Proficiency Points: 11

Strength: 21
Agility: 21

Polearm: 170

Iron Flesh: 7
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7

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Level: 35
Health Points: 56
Weapon Proficiency Points: 2

Strength: 21
Agility: 21

One Handed: 114
Throwing: 132

Power Strike: 7
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 7

If I manage to reach lv 36 with the thrower char, i might add 3 iron flesh

[WITCHCRAFT]

Level 35: Fisticuffs of doom.
              55 Strength
              0 everything else

Level 37: The Only Non-Bitch Build.
              58 Strength
              0 everything else

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Well, now I know what I am doing on my STF after the patch hits.

[Jona]

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I like what my countdown clock says better:

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[Jona]

I am waiting for full patch notes with balance changes and new items before I decide, but this looks like it will be fun:

Level 36

21 Strength
24 Agility

5 Ironflesh
7 Power Strike
8 Athletics
8 Weapon Master

All WPF into 2H or polearm (probably polearm)

Going by the formula San posted, my WPF malus should let me wear 17 weight of armor with 0 WPF penalty. That means that plate would barely reduce my WPF. I would have 1 less PS and 1 more athletics/weapon master than the build on my recently retired level 35 char. And 5 Ironflesh to boot for extra HP.

I think you must have misread something... the new formula for wpf malus is whichever is greater, either your IF*2 or your str/3. In this case you can wear a total effective weight of only 10 (5IF*2=10) before you receive wpf malus. Your str divided by 3 only allows for 7 weight, but the new formula takes the larger value, so it goes based off of your IF. 10 was the weight before malus prior to the patch, so actually your wpf malus won't change at all. I am guessing that you thought the new formula was IF*2 + str/3?

[Falka]

I think you must have misread something... the new formula for wpf malus is whichever is greater, either your IF*2 or your str/3.

According to calculator on the website that's not true. Every point in IF above 4 decrease effective armor weight and wpf penalty.

[San]

Max of 6, IF*2, and Str/3 is the threshold. If you have low strength and IF, you'll just have a threshold of 6.

Currently: 2 * head weight + body weight + leg weight + 4 * glove weight - 10 with a small exponential scaling at the end for the weight penalty.
Post patch (potentially): 2 * head weight + body weight + leg weight + 6 * glove weight - the threshold listed above with the same exponential scaling

[Jona]

Post patch (potentially): 2 * head weight + body weight + leg weight + 6 * glove weight - the threshold listed above with the same exponential scaling

Given this, my total effective weight is: 2(2.4) + 12.9 + 0.8 + 6(0.7) = 22.7

22.7- 2(6) = 10.7 wpf malus due to weight.

What exactly does this 10.7 mean? I have a maximum of 184 wpf, and according to all the calculators, post-patch I will have an effective wpf of 167.

184 - 10.7 = ~173 =/= 167.

Is 10.7 the percent of wpf we lose? In that case 184 * .107 = 19.688

184 - 19.688 = ~164 =/= 167

So it still doesn't work out nicely... any insight you could give us as to what the number left over after finding your effective weight and subtracting the threshold actually means?

[Corwin]

I don't get it why people are making lvl 36 and lvl 37 builds. Is it possible that everyone is such a grinder?

Anyway, how's crossbow these days? I haven't played in a while and I am wondering is it worth it or still overnerfed?

[Huscarlton_Banks]

Math stuff

The math seems a bit convoluted to me as well, I don't know when the math.pow(eweight, 1.12) line got added.

It could help if you looked at crpg_functions.js via firebug or this direct link.

Related functions:

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/* Gets effective wpf properly! */
function getEffectiveWeight(helmet, chest, hand, feet, strength, ironflesh) {

helmet = parseFloat(helmet);
chest = parseFloat(chest);
hand = parseFloat(hand);
feet = parseFloat(feet);
strength = parseFloat(strength);
ironflesh = parseFloat(ironflesh);
threshold = Math.max(Math.max(ironflesh * 2, strength / 3), 6);

var eweight = Math.pow(Math.max(0, 2*helmet + chest + feet + 6*hand - threshold), 1.12);
return eweight;
}

function getPowerPenalty(ps, weaponType){

var penalty = 0;

if(weaponType == "Bow")
penalty = - Math.round(Math.max(14 * ps - Math.pow(1.35,ps) - 35, 0) * 10) / 10; //round to nearest decimal place
else if(weaponType == "Throwing")
penalty = - (ps * 11);
else penalty = 0;
return penalty;
}

function getHaWpfPenalty(ha, weaponType, mounted){

var haPenalty = 0;
var ifRanged = (weaponType == "Bow" || weaponType == "Throwing" || weaponType == "Crossbow");
if(mounted && ifRanged)
{
haPenalty = - ha * 10;
}
return haPenalty;

}

function getWeightPenalty(nerfed_wpf, effectiveWeight, weaponType, ha, mounted) {

var ifRanged = (weaponType == "Bow" || weaponType == "Throwing" || weaponType == "Crossbow");
var weightMulti;
if(ifRanged) //ranged receive an extra penalty from armor weight
{

weightMulti = Math.abs(effectiveWeight - 100);
}
else
{
weightMulti = Math.abs((2 * effectiveWeight)/3 - 100)

}

var wpf_penalty = ((weightMulti * nerfed_wpf) / 100);

return wpf_penalty - nerfed_wpf; //results in a negative
}

/* Gets effective wpf properly! */
function getEffectiveWPF(wpf, ps, effectiveWeight, weaponType, ha, mounted) {


var nerfed_wpf = wpf + getWeightPenalty(wpf,effectiveWeight,weaponType,ha,mounted);
nerfed_wpf += getHaWpfPenalty(ha,weaponType,mounted);
nerfed_wpf += getPowerPenalty(ps,weaponType);

/*if(weaponType == "Crossbow")
{
nerfed_wpf *= 1.5;
}*/
if (nerfed_wpf < 1)
nerfed_wpf = 1;

return nerfed_wpf;
}


[Voncrow]

Level 38 (657 839 195 xp)

Strength: 51
Agility: 3
Hit points: 86
Skills to attributes: 22
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 17
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 20

He's a professional Rock Thrower who part times as a boxer. In his light weight jimmy's wearing his stainless steel boxing gloves, he take his foes out one masterwork stone at a time. He is the ... thrower puncher man guy... (fuck)