Shield usage on duel server

[Lord Voren]

Shield is alot of fun. Ive played every spec in the game and I always come back to shield for a few gens because dueling and playing with a shield allows me to really focus on footwork, chambering, kicking, feinting, ect... To those guys who shit talk players for wanting to learn a new fighting style I say eat a dick and blow it out of your ass. Alot of new players try shield to start because its easy to learn block and attack mechanics and why would you want to chastise them until they quit or go masterrace2h? This is a game, people play it because its fun.

Remember Phew, A lion doesn't care what a sheep thinks...

[DrTaco]

Shield is alot of fun. Ive played every spec in the game and I always come back to shield for a few gens because dueling and playing with a shield allows me to really focus on footwork, chambering, kicking, feinting, ect... To those guys who shit talk players for wanting to learn a new fighting style I say eat a dick and blow it out of your ass. Alot of new players try shield to start because its easy to learn block and attack mechanics and why would you want to chastise them until they quit or go masterrace2h? This is a game, people play it because its fun.

Remember Phew, A lion doesn't care what a sheep thinks...

Presumably the vitrol comes from the fact that shielding is inherently easier to block with. Of course, you can pick your duels on a duel server, so even bothering to fight against something that you don't like - and then shit talking afterwards when you either lose or win - doesn't make sense. I will say however, if I go onto a duel server, I choose not to duel anyone with a shield. Primarily because I can't be arsed to bring an axe (and learn how to use it well) to break through the 7 Shieldskill masterwork steel buckler . Too much time, effort, and tricks I have to pull to get on an even footing.

[Kalam]

A shield is always a liability in melee duels. I don't know why it's ever seen as anything else.

[DrTaco]

Probably because I have a different viewpoint than you.

[Lord Voren]

A shield is always a liability in melee duels. I don't know why it's ever seen as anything else.

In what way is pushing one button to block any direction a liability? In what way is picking and choosing your battles a liability? In what way is throwing your shield up and Skeying back to teammates a liability? Its true that most shielders are beat by most 2hs, but it is not because the shield is at fault, the players skills is just different. A good shielder vs a good 2h, Id take the shielder all day everyday and twice on sunday.

[Kalam]

In what way is pushing one button to block any direction a liability? In what way is picking and choosing your battles a liability? In what way is throwing your shield up and Skeying back to teammates a liability? Its true that most shielders are beat by most 2hs, but it is not because the shield is at fault, the players skills is just different. A good shielder vs a good 2h, Id take the shielder all day everyday and twice on sunday.

Melee duels. I'm not arguing against it's effectiveness in battle. You're simply able to maneuver more easily without a shield in a one on one duel. Even when I was a 1h, I always dropped the shield if I found myself in a duel situation.

[Lord Voren]

Melee duels. I'm not arguing against it's effectiveness in battle. You're simply able to maneuver more easily without a shield in a one on one duel. Even when I was a 1h, I always dropped the shield if I found myself in a duel situation.

Well, im saying I disagree, in a duel, good shielder vs good 2h, again I say, Shielder takes it...chances are that 2h is going to be 24/15 or 18/24 and the shielder is 18/24 or 15/27. The shielder can chamber and double swing as easily as the 2h can and if the 2h isnt good at avoiding kicks its going to be even faster win. 2h has to be worried about blocking and attacking were as a shielder can pick and choose when he goes in and what attacks he wants to counter / can bully the 2h until his shield is broke, which gives him an atk speed boost.

[MURDERTRON]

Why would shielders have more stat points than a 2her who doesn't need shield points?

[Sandersson Jankins]

It isn't really as though using a shield in a duel makes you bad. I'd say that someone using a shield in the duel server is more likely to be bad than someone that does not, but that is a moot point.

The real problem is that dueling a shielder is almost always fucking boring as all hell. However, this shouldn't be a problem for anyone either. If I was in the duel server and I saw you there dueling with a shield, I'd just not duel you. I wouldn't talk shit (probably) or fuck with you. I just wouldn't duel you because I wouldn't really find it fun.

If the server was nearly empty and I wanted to duel, I'd maybe ask you to drop the shield so we could fight, but I'm not going to go apeshit if you didn't want to.

(click to show/hide)

if i absolutely did have to duel you and you had a shield I'd just skey the fuck out of you and kick-spam anyway

[Ikarus]

WORD, Phew

tbh I also hate dueling shielders cause theyre so damn durable (and it´s a pain in the arse with my iberian mace), but, well, that´s because it´s THEIR way of fighting, otherwise they wouldn´t be called shielders (bring axes for shielders, polearms for cav, shields or range for other range, people seem NOT to understand this little fact)

it´s the same when people yell at crossbowmen when they run away after they shot, xbows aren´t meant to fight at the front rows like 2h


I´m only a bit pissed when somebody wants a ranked duel with me with a friggin maul. That´s really idiotic (unless you want to train fights with mauls OR when he lets you stand up and won´t hit you after a knockdown, but these sportive guys got way too rare)

[Macropus]

You could always put the shield on your back. Then its an even bigger handicap.

After the introduction of "Drop shield" button, I don't understand why people still put their shields on their back, when they could just drop it and then pick it up back once they're finished with that axeman.

[Lord Voren]

After the introduction of "Drop shield" button, I don't understand why people still put their shields on their back, when they could just drop it and then pick it up back once they're finished with that axeman.

Thats how it works in Battle but for a duel if youre working on your fighting with your gear, dropping the shield takes the wight off, which effects your footwork. But hell yeah drop that shit in battle, shit on that kid with a morning star or Long Bardiche or whatever that spammer has, and pick up your shield when youre done with him. Just because you have shield skill doesnt mean you have to fight with one all the time.

[Macropus]

Thats how it works in Battle but for a duel if youre working on your fighting with your gear, dropping the shield takes the wight off, which effects your footwork.

Yes, it improves footwork. Thought that's a good thing. You don't need to practice fighting with the additional weight if you're going to drop the shield in battle, do you?  And IMO duelling without shield doesn't help much for fighting with one, it's a bit different fighting styles.

[Sandersson Jankins]

After the introduction of "Drop shield" button, I don't understand why people still put their shields on their back, when they could just drop it and then pick it up back once they're finished with that axeman.

it has the possibility of making you look more fly

and looking fly is what its all about at the end of the day

[Macropus]

it has the possibility of making you look more fly

and looking fly is what its all about at the end of the day

Much more so if you're a cav. Putting a shield on your back without being on horseback is pretty much a waste of your shield.