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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #60 on: October 10, 2014, 07:30:55 pm »
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Yes, Europe did suffer dramatically through the two world wars while the US gained enormously.
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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2014, 09:00:03 pm »
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Yes, Europe Old World did suffer dramatically through the two world wars while the US New World gained enormously.

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2014, 11:01:06 pm »
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Corrected.

Yeah right, USA protecting the world from evil Russkies. Only thing USA protected in post war Europe were your own interests. If USSR spread to west Europe, that could mean game over for USA. Had nothing to do with helping Europe.

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2014, 11:20:58 pm »
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bundle of sticks Americans, deliberately let Europe drown in blood (twice) and only finally intervened when every side was completely fucking obliterated and exhausted, geopolitically expanded into the resulting vacuum of power left worldwide from the collapse of colonial empires and the retarded cunts still have the nerve to whine about it. "BOOHOO, our bundle of sticksry and impregnable strategic position made us the heir of worldwide domination, ensuring untold wealth and prosperity, WEEP FOR US". Like you fucks sacrificed anything for it. "Greatest generation" my ass. Oh noes, less than half a percent of our population, TRULY WE ARE THE GREATEST MARTYRS OF FREEDOM.
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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #64 on: October 10, 2014, 11:29:18 pm »
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That's called smart play. Something I learned from Gnjus. Sit in a corner of the map for couple of minutes and monitor the battlefield. When you're sure everyone has low HP, pop up from nowhere and start slashing and racking kills. At the end of the round, counter says 8:0 k/d. Wohohoo! :mrgreen:

Valid tactics. No one can deny that. Feel free to hate it though. But claiming heroic play isn't valid. Fact that most Americans believe how they are true heroes of WWII (after you investigate what actually happened prior, during and after the war you come to conclusion that there is no such thing as heroes in WWII), is what makes them so akin to their arch nemesis, Russians. Not the same level of indoctrination, but close.

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #65 on: October 10, 2014, 11:47:31 pm »
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The russians actually have a valid point though, with their "Great Patriotic War" propaganda. Of course they weren't all heroes, and no one likes to bring up the revenge the soviets took on enemy civilians, and the propaganda these days is used to demonize their current neighbors because of expediency and politics (despite Russia Federation itself being more "fascist" than any of those it accuses). But they were the overwhelming victim and victor of WW2. Their claims to martyrdom are more accurate than the fairy tales americans tell themselves of their prowess and sacrifice.
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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2014, 02:37:15 am »
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bundle of sticks Americans, deliberately let Europe drown in blood (twice) and only finally intervened when every side was completely fucking obliterated and exhausted

Yeah... I'd ask an historian about that.

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2014, 03:57:53 am »
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Yeah... I'd ask an historian about that.

US didn't enter the European theater of the war until its later stages, most historians will tell you that.

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2014, 04:08:25 am »
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US didn't enter the European theater of the war until its later stages, most historians will tell you that.

Eh, Kafein questioned why, not when.
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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2014, 04:39:25 am »
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Eh, Kafein questioned why, not when.

To look good, as has been suggested.

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2014, 04:55:43 am »
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Yeah right, USA protecting the world from evil Russkies. Only thing USA protected in post war Europe were your own interests. If USSR spread to west Europe, that could mean game over for USA. Had nothing to do with helping Europe.

And your point is???

im fairly fucking sure most of europe didnt want to be under the Soviet boot at the time and was in no shape at all to handle it yourselves. does the reasons behind why the country helping you really matter?


bundle of sticks Americans, deliberately let Europe drown in blood (twice) and only finally intervened when every side was completely fucking obliterated and exhausted, geopolitically expanded into the resulting vacuum of power left worldwide from the collapse of colonial empires and the retarded cunts still have the nerve to whine about it. "BOOHOO, our bundle of sticksry and impregnable strategic position made us the heir of worldwide domination, ensuring untold wealth and prosperity, WEEP FOR US". Like you fucks sacrificed anything for it. "Greatest generation" my ass. Oh noes, less than half a percent of our population, TRULY WE ARE THE GREATEST MARTYRS OF FREEDOM.

nah, we just sat back facepalming at the fact that you guys let yourselves fall into a two world wars. only when we were finally threatened did we finally act

lol what? since when did we push any of that ideology on anyone?



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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2014, 06:51:01 am »
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I can't be the only one enjoying this shitstorm

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2014, 07:40:23 am »
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I heard china was nothing but loom crutching plate wearing strat fajheets

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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2014, 03:58:27 pm »
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Yeah... I'd ask an historian about that.

WWI was a dumb war for America. They joined, and then Europe felt that it was far more important to "punish" Germany than to do other stuff. America was the only Allied country to ignore/reject the signing of the Versailles Treaty, due to the fact that Europe completly ignored American Opinions on the treaty.(America actually took a less "offensive" stance than what Versailles Treaty wanted.)

Following this, with the Rise of Nzi Germany, the US didn't want to participate in another war, after how disgusting the First one was. Sure, people such as Roosevelt believed that we needed to go to war, but the majority of people were Isolationist. Japan Changed that.

Then Russia decieded to NOT move it's troops back to Russia. Had it wanted, Russia could have pushed forward, but have the only WMD kinda helps keep things in check.

OBV, that's really short explanation since the factors leading to WWI were very, very complex for all sides, especially Germany.

I do find it funny that people do revisionist history. It's becoming, sadly, more prevelant. I saw it not long ago, a history topic I once read and studied when I was younger has been changed to something so...different...it's disgusting, really.
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Re: China overtakes the US as the worlds biggest economy
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2014, 04:18:11 pm »
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It's not disgusting. Before the internet, only people who seriously studied history knew the facts. Everybody else took for granted what was in history books for elementary and high school or what their (biased) family told them. Mucho bullshit in most cases. Now every individual can dig as deep as he wants and analyze the data presented to him. People can see through obvious bullshit thanks to internet, you can't sell them stupid ideas as before. Life is not as simple and many things that were considered important aren't anymore.