Cavalry being reared from the side

[MURDERTRON]

Yeah, it's just so hard. You must have missed this:Almost a 12:1 k:d ratio on a level 30 character.

Man, cav sure has it tough.

So one of the best players in the game is getting a higher K:D by playing one of the most expensive classes in the game with presumably everything loomed, and you're crying imbalance?  If it was a shit player getting a 12:1 K:D, then you'd have a problem.  However, you're also taking a very small sample size into account, this is clearly only over a couple of maps.  On the average, not every player will disconnect or change characters when they get to a map not suitable for cav.  Or he goes to a map and its raining and his hits only do half the damage he's used to.  10 bucks says he can't maintain that high of a ratio until he gets 1000 kills or 100 deaths.  The worst part though, is that I believe most of this "testing" was done when you made your archery nerf and archery was nearly useless because you accidentally overnerfed it.

Your tests are anything but scientific, so please stop pretending they are.

[San]

There weren't that many great players when I was on and it was for a good hour after the previous patch. That post was only for bump slash nerf =/= 1h cav unviable. My cav performance is usually 3-4.5:1 no matter what weapon I use. Unloomed would be ~3.

I think it's hard to agree what people consider "good" for cav. Is it being able to excel in every situation, having a good kd/score (I personally use this primarily with some secondary factors), difficulty when fighting aware opponents, etc. Some people accept high kd as the nature of cav and focus on how difficult it is to fight certain aware opponents, while I look at score/kd and worth as a unit compared to a single other unit/battle power in a group.

[Chosen1]

[Thomek]

Love it when cav players complains. Easily most powerful class by far.

They must be incredibly stupid.


It's ok that cav is powerful though, as long as it's not too many of them. That's why it should and can be much more expensive than now.

[Kaoklai]

Yeah, it's just so hard. You must have missed this:Almost a 12:1 k:d ratio on a level 30 character.

Man, cav sure has it tough.

Cavalry is op/gay/whatever, but kd with 71 kills doesn't mean shit.  That's like, what, 7 maps maximum for not-new-player cav. Don't bring up kd unless it's >800 kills, otherwise you're the cRPG equivalent of a fat girl taking high angle photos. 

[Tydeus]

Cavalry is op/gay/whatever, but kd with 71 kills doesn't mean shit.  That's like, what, 7 maps maximum for not-new-player cav. Don't bring up kd unless it's >800 kills, otherwise you're the cRPG equivalent of a fat girl taking high angle photos.

Were I not trying to focus on the actual potential, I would agree. The class does generally outperform others in k:d, as made apparent by the fact that the only class to get anywhere near 9:1 k:d (I believe 9.2:1 was Rohypnol's record) for the character's gen(at least that I have ever heard of, and I can't recall proof of melee even getting 5:1 for a gen), was mounted. Which is a reminder I had hoped people would have recalled upon seeing the screenshot.

tldr; k:d itself generally isn't a reason we use to nerf something, it's only an indicator, a "red flag" if you will.

[Leshma]

Isn't OP BADPLAYER? Sure looks like him.

[Xant]

Where can I download those texture mods?

[imisshotmail]

Where can I download those texture mods?

i can't be bothered uploading my own textures but just download openBRF and replace the textures you want yourself, should be a guide on taleworlds mod forums how to do it.

Love it when cav players complains. Easily most powerful class by far.

They must be incredibly stupid.


It's ok that cav is powerful though, as long as it's not too many of them. That's why it should and can be much more expensive than now.

I'm not even complaining about cavalry being weak? I always say how cav needs to be nerfed, it's just this is 100% buggy shit and nothing to do with balance. Also you're a fucking idiot if you think gold cost does anything to stop people using items.

[Sir_Firebus]

lel

[cup457]

Isn't OP BADPLAYER? Sure looks like him.

yes

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

I think it's a ping problem. You can get reared when turning away if the polearm manages to touch the front of your horse. Ping probably messed up how it appeared to you.

This

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

Please stop trying to use this thread for constructive conversation.

[ROHYPNOL]

Yeah, it's just so hard. You must have missed this:Almost a 12:1 k:d ratio on a level 30 character.
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Man, cav sure has it tough.

Don't post pictures of someone's kdr that only has 70 kills, that proves no point. That is like 2 maps of kills... Hurry someone jump on your alt get 1 kill and post that shit up!

Also glances still do rear horses sometimes, even from the side.

Were I not trying to focus on the actual potential, I would agree. The class does generally outperform others in k:d, as made apparent by the fact that the only class to get anywhere near 9:1 k:d (I believe 9.2:1 was Rohypnol's record) for the character's gen(at least that I have ever heard of, and I can't recall proof of melee even getting 5:1 for a gen), was mounted. Which is a reminder I had hoped people would have recalled upon seeing the screenshot.

tldr; k:d itself generally isn't a reason we use to nerf something, it's only an indicator, a "red flag" if you will.

If I can get 5.5 kdr with poles and 1k kills and 5.4kdr 2h only 326 kills before respec im sure that others have had it... and yes I do have proof. My best ever gen with cav was 10.5kdr but that was back when

cav was truly OP. Now I would say it is pretty balanced tbh. There are select few cav that can continually top the boards, but they are going to do that with everything and have been playing the game for

years. There is a huge gap between heavy can and light cav. Light cav seem pretty much useless while heavy cav is damn near the only thing you can do to even play your build. It is pretty expensive to ride

around on an arabian  for it to get shot out from under you in 1 to 2 shots. If you want to cut some cav down, get rid of those lame ass couching lances that require nothing to use them. Reminds me much like 

people picking up crossbows that do not have anything in them. Focus on fixing the completely broken stuff, like no skill into couching lances to use them and no skill into crossbows to use them before we

destory anymore builds. Put some sort of wpf requirement on them, problem solved.

[Ikarus]

Short STF rumbles are not really a proof for OPness, Tydeus

But hands up, I´ll just stop here. I admit, I´ve never played heavy 1hcav seriously so I don´t know how op it is, I mostly played destrier with lance and it became really frustrating lately (glance cav) but maybe I just suck now, what-eveeer

Do what y´all want and think that is right

@Ilovehotmail: stop playing picasso-mode, reinstall normal textures