Shooting and protests in Ferguson, Missouri

[Jeade]

If a person weighs the same as a duck, then that person is made of wood (because both ducks and wood float in water).

• A person is a buoyant duck-weighted object
• Buoyant duck-weighted objects are made of wood
• ∴ A person is made of wood

Welp, the logic checks out.

[Artyem]

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You keep saying things like "ghetto kid" and "average criminal" yet you don't seem to understand that the guy was 6'4" (1.93m) and weighed 292 lb (132 kg.)

When a man of that size hits you hard enough to cause an orbital blowout, and then proceeds to charge you again, it's no longer a case of police brutality; it's self defense.  Tasers are not as effective as you probably believe, and mace won't stop a guy that's already attacking you.  I suppose you'd like him to use his special karate kid training to fight and tackle the 132 kg monster he's fighting, but I somehow doubt that the officer was capable of that with injuries like this:

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[Christo]

Like it or not, in this case it can be argued that the pistol shot was valid alone for counterbalancing the massive weight of the guy charging at him.
And I mentioned no previous hits or disarm attempts yet.

Yup, pretty much what Artyem said. Self defense.

[Jeade]

You keep saying things like "ghetto kid" and "average criminal" yet you don't seem to understand that the guy was 6'4" (1.93m) and weighed 292 lb (132 kg.)

When a man of that size hits you hard enough to cause an orbital blowout, and then proceeds to charge you again, it's no longer a case of police brutality; it's self defense.  Tasers are not as effective as you probably believe, and mace won't stop a guy that's already attacking you.

Not only this, but backup didn't arrive for another few minutes after the shooting.
What was the officer supposed to do in the meantime?
Brawl with the guy that just fractured his face, then safely control and handcuff him by himself?

[Laufknoten]

You keep saying things like "ghetto kid" and "average criminal" yet you don't seem to understand that the guy was 6'4" (1.93m) and weighed 292 lb (132 kg.)

Here in germany this incident is also relatively big in the news. They always call brown a "black teenager", not mentioning how big he was. It's obvious they want to imply that a small, innocent, black teenager was executed by an evil white american cop. Simply put it's anti-white propaganda. 

[Leshma]

You keep saying things like "ghetto kid" and "average criminal" yet you don't seem to understand that the guy was 6'4" (1.93m) and weighed 292 lb (132 kg.)

I thought he was bigger. Average 18 year old kid in my neighborhood is around 6'3" but with much better build. Young policemen in here are 6'5" and very muscular, that is why I don't fuck with them. Not sure what happened in here, but new generations look downright scary compared to us older folks, gym culture that spread like wildfire doesn't help the cause. I'm just 5'11" and that makes me a dwarf among teenagers.

Cromy old friends are welcome to visit, to see for themselves am I talking bullshit or not. Just a reminder, young generations are in general like Panos, right winged nutjobs and because of that I can't guarantee their safety.

[Butan]

Not only this, but backup didn't arrive for another few minutes after the shooting.
What was the officer supposed to do in the meantime?
Brawl with the guy that just fractured his face, then safely control and handcuff him by himself?

I guess the officer must have cuffed him where he laid dead, with his fractured skull, anyway. Not really pertinent to the situation, since it played after the fatal shooting happened.


Sorry if it has been brought up, but is there a reasonable article on what happened during the brawl?
What I collected is the background : michael brown rob a store minutes before the shooting
and wounds : a fractured skull for the policeman and 6 bullets on the young man, one killing him instantly in the head


I read a few autopsy report which doesnt all go in the same direction: one says none of the shots were done at short range, one says they were all shot at the front of the body, some that he was shot in the back, etc...

[Umbra]

I thought he was bigger. Average 18 year old kid in my neighborhood is around 6'3" but with much better build. Young policemen in here are 6'5" and very muscular, that is why I don't fuck with them. Not sure what happened in here, but new generations look downright scary compared to us older folks, gym culture that spread like wildfire doesn't help the cause. I'm just 5'11" and that makes me a dwarf among teenagers.

Cromy old friends are welcome to visit, to see for themselves am I talking bullshit or not. Just a reminder, young generations are in general like Panos, right winged nutjobs and because of that I can't guarantee their safety.

Iv been in Novi Sad, and its nothing like you describe. Blokes look normal, got a bad case of 3 fingers in the air on festivals but their builds are normal and the police too

[Leshma]

Novi Sad is different, they are on different cultural level (for the most part) and used to multiculturalism. People who live south aren't, and majority of them are in the capital living as criminals (ranging from hooligans to drug dealers and killers). Novi Sad is the peaceful, European city and that is why they wan't to split.

Oberyn is mentioning Detroit. Well I already live in a city like that. And it's becoming worse every day. And I do live in a ghetto area, wild suburbs that are reminiscent of City 17 from Half Life 2 Shit you see on those russian/soviet clips, happens here as well.

[Oberyn]

What city do you live in? Do you want to compare the murder rates? Have you had 50 drive-by shootings in a weekend? Dozens of murders as a daily occurance? Toddlers and babies being shot by stray bullets and, in the worst of cases, deliberately?
You're getting the terms wrong anyways. Suburbs in the US means safe areas with white picket fences and houses. It's usually downtown that's the marginal fucked up ghetto area. It's the complete opposite of most european cities in that sense.

[Jeade]

am I talking bullshit or not.

U.S. 178.9 cm (5 ft 10 1⁄2 in) Male White Americans, Aged 20–39
Serbia 182 cm (5 ft 11 1⁄2 in), Male, Aged 18–30

Well, judging by the averages...

Perhaps it's a bit pedantic, but I'm struggling to understand why you're bothering to so valiantly defend a young adult being shot based on how tall you expect police to be in Serbia.
What?

[Jeade]

I guess the officer must have cuffed him where he laid dead, with his fractured skull, anyway. Not really pertinent to the situation, since it played after the fatal shooting happened.


Sorry if it has been brought up, but is there a reasonable article on what happened during the brawl?
What I collected is the background : michael brown rob a store minutes before the shooting
and wounds : a fractured skull for the policeman and 6 bullets on the young man, one killing him instantly in the head


I read a few autopsy report which doesnt all go in the same direction: one says none of the shots were done at short range, one says they were all shot at the front of the body, some that he was shot in the back, etc...

I'll see if I can round up a couple sources for you.

The preliminary autopsy has only stated he was shot three times in the right arm, once in the right pectoral, once in the right eye, and once in the top of the head.
There have been no tests checking for gunpowder residue on the clothing, so it's largely impossible to tell what range he was shot at.
There were no entrance wounds in the back, however. That was stated in the preliminary autopsy report.

The DOJ is also conducting an autopsy at the moment, so that will eventually come out to confirm the previous report.

Here's a video of a witness explaining what he saw to a neighbor/friend.

[Prpavi]

I thought he was bigger. Average 18 year old kid in my neighborhood is around 6'3" but with much better build. Young policemen in here are 6'5" and very muscular, that is why I don't fuck with them. Not sure what happened in here, but new generations look downright scary compared to us older folks, gym culture that spread like wildfire doesn't help the cause. I'm just 5'11" and that makes me a dwarf among teenagers.

Cromy old friends are welcome to visit, to see for themselves am I talking bullshit or not. Just a reminder, young generations are in general like Panos, right winged nutjobs and because of that I can't guarantee their safety.

Been to Belgade for my birthday couple years ago... partied around town walked 4 a.m. through the city, no problems, been to Novi Sad this year on Exit festival (4th time on Exit) never had a single bad experience, only remember sweet girls that dig our accent.

Murder rate for Serbia is 1.2 as is for Croatia, you had 111 murders in 2012. while we had 51, with population half of Serbia it's basically the same, didn't find numbers for Zagreb and Belgade but I doubt they are that different.

[BASNAK]

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Don't really know much about the Ferguson riots and all. Is that really Michael Brown in the photo?

[Butan]

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Don't really know much about the Ferguson riots and all. Is that really Michael Brown in the photo?

Could be, is it also his BFF high on dope in the background?

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Sure look cleaner here.