Conversations with an Islamic Jihadist

[Oberyn]

By the way Mohammed was a goat-fucking pedophile murderer, shit be upon his name. What are you gonna do now, Overdriven? I've just insulted your religion. Do you want to forbid that? Make it a crime, maybe? Was it driven by "islamophobic" hatred in your opinion? Strange, I've seen and said much worse things about christianity and Jesus, stuff done to the bible, the whole ideology deconstructed into the piecemeal backwards social mores it sprung from, yet I have never heard the term "christianophobe" or been accused of racism for it.

[Christo]

[Utrakil]

no need to worry, I don`t feel sorry for you, you are from those guys who prefer to bend over, instead of having national pride.

I feel sorry for the true Germans, who actually worry and love their country.

Some days ago, I read that some courts in Germany removed the bible and the christian pictures they had in the court rooms, because the goat fuckers felt insulted by it.

Can you please explain "true german"
you think only the 5% of rightwingvoters are true germans? or do you want to say that people of a democracy which welcomes strangers are all non true to their nation?
I don't get your nonsens!

[BASNAK]

By the way Mohammed was a goat-fucking pedophile murderer. What are you gonna do now, Overdriven? I've just insulted your religion. Do you want to forbid that? Make it a crime, maybe? Was it driven by "islamophobic" hatred in your opinion? Strange, I've seen and said much worse things about christianity and Jesus, stuff done to the bible, the whole ideology deconstructed into the piecemeal backwards social mores it sprung from, yet I have never heard the term "christianophobe" or been accused of racism for it.

If I recall correctly Overdriven is a Quranist which means he denies Hadith. Hadith was written 220 years after the Muhammeds death, and that's where Sharia and pretty much the rest of the messed up stuff in Islam comes from. An example is stoning to death which is never mentioned in the Quran, only in Hadith.

[Prinz_Karl]

Paha show me a statistic that actually demonstrates that.

Well I could give you a link in german but I guess that won't help you much. Anyway, it's proven that from most islamic countries the immigrants (second or third generation) have a lower education level and employment rate. It's just a statistic, it's not including all countries or all people.

[Oberyn]

So he's a special snowflake muslim, great. How many muslims in the world ignore all haddiths, exactly? How many muslim denominations just in the UK? By that metric, aren't literally all the Caliphs and muslim governments that have ever existed after Mohammed's death illegitimate and based on faulty theology?

[Tomas_Miles_again]

Well there are entire forums for muslim communities, why don't you google it and report your findings back to us?

Here's a tiny result of a 2 second search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Hadith

[BASNAK]

So he's a special snowflake muslim, great. How many muslims in the world ignore all haddiths, exactly? How many muslim denominations just in the UK?

Different sects have their own Hadiths, like the Shia have one collection of hadith and the Sunni have theirs. A majority of muslims believe in Hadith since many islamic practices like praying would be impossible to do without Hadith. It is never mentioned in the Quran on how to pray - its all hadith. Ask any Sunni muslim what importance Hadith has to Islam and they will say the same importance as the Quran.

And since there's many different hadith collections, many contradict eachother, and about 1 in a 100 hundred of all hadith ever made is actually considered "legit".

*Edit* I should clarify my last sentence. When the Hadith collections were written in the 800's, thousands upon thousands of hadith were reported orally to people like Bukhari and Muslim who wrote them down. And only 1 in a 100 were approved, because many people were making shit up.

[Oberyn]

Those were all rhetorical questions, Quranists are a middling and practically non-existent minority in the muslim world. The gates of ijtihad were closed long ago.

[Falka]

Some days ago, I read that some courts in Germany removed the bible and the christian pictures they had in the court rooms, because the goat fuckers felt insulted by it.

That's weird that there were christian paintings in the first place. Even in Poland, which is one of the most - if not the most - catholic countries in europe with enormous influence of church on both private and public life, christian symbols aren't allowed in the courts. Though we have a catholic cross in the parliament.

[Oberyn]

Muslims in the west love secularism when it suits them, i.e when it isn't their ideology being subjected to it. At all other times it's literally a racist mechanism designed solely to oppress them. The history of european countries and their struggles with their own native religions, the hundreds of years it took to dismantle homemade theocracies and governments built entirely around religious legitimacy, they don't give a fuck. It's not their past or their history after all, and can therefore be ignored.

[Leesin]

And only 1 in a 100 were approved, because many people were making shit up.

When I got to this part I lold pretty hard, because a lot of what is written in ALL religious books is shit that was made up.

[Oberyn]

No, I'm quite sure the angel Gabriel decended from the heavens to impart the truth of God upon Mohammed, his prophet. Only a racist hater would say otherwise, or say it's a fucking made up fairy tale.

[Leesin]

No, I'm quite sure the angel Gabriel decended from the heavens to impart the truth of God upon Mohammed, his prophet. Only a racist hater would say otherwise, or say it's a fucking made up fairy tale.

 

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[Falka]

By the way Mohammed was a goat-fucking pedophile murderer, shit be upon his name. What are you gonna do now, Overdriven? I've just insulted your religion. Do you want to forbid that? Make it a crime, maybe?

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In POland an artist who made this... installation, performance, whatever you want to call that, was convicted by the court of insulting "religious feelings" 

PS. Don't ban me, that's an artistic performance, exposed in the National Art Gallery.