Valor killed the mod. Remove plox.

[Teeth]

It's a real issue on EU with a few players making a career out of running to the edge of the map and farming valour from chasers while losing by flags. I was thinking of disabling valour for players that survive while their team loses.

[Molly]

Why not just remove it completely? Permanently?

Valour created problems where none were... stupid "feature" is stupid.

[Huscarlton_Banks]

Outside of banner-stacking and epeen, valour is the only mechanism that makes trying hard seem rewarding though.

Otherwise there's just no point in trying at all if the other team is obviously roflstomping yours, since exp/gold/upkeep is entirely tick based.

[Kafein]

Why not just remove it completely? Permanently?

Valour created problems where none were... stupid "feature" is stupid.

I disagree, multi created far more problems, including those that you attribute to valor.

[Macropus]

Cons: People end up ramboing to wrack up points, and end up whacking their teammates like retards.

Bullshit. Teamhits reduce your score significantly, making it much harder to get valour.

Valour in general is a great feature, I don't get how can anyone have any problems with that, except for the delaying issue.

Otherwise there's just no point in trying at all if the other team is obviously roflstomping yours, since exp/gold/upkeep is entirely tick based.

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[Macropus]

Wont comment on battle, but for siege i think it's an issue when you see people deliberately avoid the flag just to chase kills and score.

I rarely get valor, but never once have i felt i did more for the team on the occasions i got it, i'm normally just as amazed as everyone else.

Do you think all the people who aren't defending the flag properly are hunting for valour? I don't think so, considering that usually only 2-3 people get valour.
And weirdly enough, I always know when I'm likely to get valour basing on how well I did in the round.

[LordLargos]

You got your wish. Valour has become a very rare occurrence.

[Bryggan]

Valour is fine.  The people who regularly get it rarely delay, and for people like us for whom its a rare occurence it's a nice 'high five' from the game.  And in NA it seems that a lot of the delayers aren't getting valour (not enough people out of the main group to fight I guess), it seems their biggest concern is their KD rating.  So I still say punish the survivors (of the losing team)- give them no valour, and a -1 death.

The Spartans had the right idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristodemus_of_Sparta

[MURDERTRON]

Both the multi system with valor and the proximity to damage systems are severely flawed.  The only fair way to distribute experience is to do it based on YouTube views for 360 no scope trick shot kills.

[CrazyCracka420]

It is possible;
Have a global variable/reg server side for when won by flags.
Add a check in the valour code for: if won by flags and player alive and if on winning team or not.
If on the losing team, no valour.

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#Code about MoTF, after it decides if a team has won by MoTF
  (assign, "$g_battle_flag_win",1),                                  #global for whether the round was won by MoTF, 1 if yes, 0 if no.

#Valour code, after most the checks, but before rewarded, put into the losing team part
  (player_get_agent_id,":player_agent",":player_no"),     #Getting the player's agent

  (try_begin),
    (eq,"$g_battle_flag_win",1),                                      #Checking if battle was won by MoTF
    (agent_is_alive,":player_agent"),                                  #Checking if the player is alive
    (multiplayer_send_string_to_player,"player_no",multiplayer_event_display_admin_chat,"@Bundle of sticks!"),    #Calling the valour whore a bundle of sticks in admin chat.
  (else_try),
##
##Rest of valour code for losing team
##
  (end_try),


[Bryggan]

Siege shouldn't have valour.  Usually the guy most useful to the team is the guy who turtles up and forces his way through the choke point so the guys behind him can get through while the enemy hacks him to pieces.  Or the guy alone at the flags just blocking and running around in circles keeping the banner up until the rest of the defenders get there.

Maybe points could be awarded for being in the flag zone while it's between top and bottom?