0.3.3.9.1

[Tydeus]

A rough calculation says 18/24s got at least a 6-10% damage increase vs +3 destriers depending on their armor layout with the patch, not counting leg/headshots, but increased accuracy seems like a far more likely explanation, unless someone messed with/accidentally rolled back soak/reduction/speed bonus.

Haven't noticed anything weird with the damage on NA though.

What periods in time are you comparing, exactly? Post 3.3.9.1 to now should be a decrease, as it would have less wpf.

I noticed that my horse was taking more damage sometimes, but it might just be a few more strength or long bow archers on at that time.

Pretty sure this is the case. Whenever I play I try to mentally take note of what items I see on the battlefield. Since we've been doing a lot with bows lately, I've been particularly focused on those. When the first patch came out, I noticed a drop in the number of long and rus bows. When the fixed system was implemented, not only did long bows and rus bows resurface, it seemed like 1 slot bows were being used less frequently as well.

Likely what happened is you got used to to your horse consistently taking low amounts of damage from archers (due to few long/rus bows) during the 0.3.3.9.1 patch, then when the newest patch came out and the tables turned, things undoubtedly looked much different.

[Spleen]

the cRPG rage cycle is always on.

INF with no shield> QQ ranged
INF with shield> QQ Cav
Ranged> QQ Cav
Cav> QQ Ranged

the solution: go mounted ranged
l2p noobs!

[Huscarlton_Banks]

I was comparing the penalties that San just posted with a calculator I had with this formula:

wpf= wpf - (14*PD - max((1.35^PD)-35,0))

I have no idea what patch it's from, but I think it was back in July.

[San]

That's the current formula. The old one had something like 1.4^PD without the -35, then min(result^1.1, base wpf of the character).

[Huscarlton_Banks]

Alright now I'm confused.

Is the formula

wpf - (max(14*PD -(1.35^PD)-35,0))     (-43 WPF with 6 PD)

or

wpf - (14*PD - max((1.35^PD)-35,0))    (-84 WPF with 6 PD)

[San]

I apologize, I wasn't looking too closely at the formula since it didn't cross my mind that you were talking about the error, definitely the first. I think what was being stated was that there is less wpf than before the alteration to the PD formula in general. From last patch to this patch, however, archers received around 40-50wpf back.

[Huscarlton_Banks]

Ah that makes sense.

I was just saying that archers do a bit more damage now than they did with the bugged WPF from the alteration.

A gain of 40 wpf is around 7-8% more "real average damage" per hit with 6 pd, 184 base wpf, horn bow.

[WITCHCRAFT]

You forgot one

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[Oberyn]

Thanks, will use that one in the future. I just picked the first smallest one I could find on google images.

[crit1cal]

Hello, did they bring out an hotfix for archers ? or I need to wait again to play

[Algarn]

Hotfix got released.

[Tydeus]

Ah that makes sense.

I was just saying that archers do a bit more damage now than they did with the bugged WPF from the alteration.

A gain of 40 wpf is around 7-8% more "real average damage" per hit with 6 pd, 184 base wpf, horn bow.

I see. I was just trying to ensure that no one was saying they started doing more now, than prior to this series of changes.

[Templar_Steevee]

I played a bit with my main and archery looks quite good, I'm able to shoot acurate and dmg looks fine for  me.

[HappyPhantom]

I played a bit with my main and archery looks quite good, I'm able to shoot acurate and dmg looks fine for  me.

Sssshhhhhh!

[Artemis13]

I've been fiddling with it quite a bit since the hotfix. I can definitely detect a drop from before all the recent changes, but they aren't as bad as they were. It's been a few days and I feel like I'm still re-learning how to shoot so the difference is significant, but I don't think it's impossibly bad like it was before. I'll know more about how balanced it all is as I settle into more comfort with it. Though, usually, it only takes me a day or two to adjust so maybe this is as good as it gets and my effectiveness is where it's going to stay, which is a bit of a sad sigh if so.