Horse archery is too strong

[Remy]

Things always become problematic when you factor in higher level characters.

I know that when I played as an HA things weren't always fun because I lacked anything more than a +2 Horn Bow and as a newer player I didn't have the post lvl-31 stats of many other ranged players.

At the same time I can see the inherent difficulties involved with changing or nerfing higher levels. Still, as a newbie, it is pretty daunting to know that in loom/skill heavy roles like ranged it will take an eternity to catch up to the higher levels. 

[Adalwulf]

I just restarted playing after 6 months sell my longbow and go HA after wasting looms on a horse and now you wanna nerf the build I chose again...EVERY TIME I START PLAYING THIS FUCKING MOD YOU NERF WHAT I PLAY. FUCK YOU.

[BlueKnight]

I just restarted playing after 6 months sell my longbow and go HA after wasting looms on a horse and now you wanna nerf the build I chose again...EVERY TIME I START PLAYING THIS FUCKING MOD YOU NERF WHAT I PLAY. FUCK YOU.

You came back to play HA? Karma strikes again!

[Molly]

I just restarted playing after 6 months sell my longbow and go HA after wasting looms on a horse and now you wanna nerf the build I chose again...EVERY TIME I START PLAYING THIS FUCKING MOD YOU NERF WHAT I PLAY. FUCK YOU.

So, you were archer and thought it was a good idea to go HA now?

You deserve every tiny bit of this karma slap! 

[Spleen]

well adal, 2 years too late to the party

[Stormcrow]

Truthfully HA is already terrible which is why not very many people play it. The only strength is at the end of round you can delay and try to win. I suggest you make an HA build and try and top the score boards. Then come back here and post a screen shot, if it is so OP this shouldn't be a problem. Chances are you will quit before you get any good as this is a frustrating and useless class already. It seems to me that you have just simply found two good HA players who are likely working together and using teamwork to win, not an OP class.

[Kampfkarotte]

Making a poll about nerfing HA is not democratic. Most people dont play HA and are happy when they get nerfed.

[Torost]

Not sure if STRONG is the best description.

Good HAs tend to play it safe early. Live longer , get more time to pewpew.
When the battle nears midround or end, they gets kills from wounded enemies.

If other ranged on foot would target them from the start , they would not be as effective.
Footranged tend to target other classes before HA, it is easier to hit and kill infantry, or any other class than mounted ranged.

solution: convince your friendly ranged to target HAs from the start.

ofc this solution might be suboptimal for winning the battle.

But atleast those HAs did not get epeen on the scoreboard!!!!

[gallonigher]

just nerf the class into oblivion and 90% of the player base won't even miss it.  Problem solved.  Those who do miss it are part of the problem.

[Adalwulf]

just nerf the class into oblivion and 90% of the player base won't even miss it.  Problem solved.  Those who do miss it are part of the problem.

The problem is you 2h and pole hero's that don't follow your ranged around on the map nad run of on your own. If you stayed with your archers other HA's wouldn't attack you. HA's aren't OP you melee are just stupid.

[Molly]

The problem is you 2h and pole hero's that don't follow your ranged around on the map nad run of on your own. If you stayed with your archers other HA's wouldn't attack you. HA's aren't OP you melee are just stupid.

Actually, you're stupid if you actually believe one word of the crap you wrote.
Archers, at least 75% of them, do NOT focus cav. No matter if HA or 1h or Lance. They do NOT shoot them cuz shooting down a horse doesn't give you those nice kills on the scoreboard for e-peen.
Archers shoot peasants, they shoot low armour guys and only, ONLY, when they are under cav pressure some, SOME NOT ALL, start actually shooting cav.
That is EU1 reality...

[San]

The problem is, you archer and ranged heroes don't follow your melee around on the map and instead camp in the back, out of reach of anyone. If you stayed within support range of your melee, HA would never be a problem for them. HA's aren't OP, you ranged need to cover melee/make sure they're not getting shot.

Melee's perspective.

[Tydeus]

Melee's perspective.

Indeed, when I play my archer, I follow the melee.

[darmaster]

Melee's perspective.

Indeed, when I play my archer, I follow the melee.

OH IT'S ON

[PsychoTwins]

For those saying you have to be really high level like 33+ to play HA, or that it takes a lot of time to master, that is a little overestimating HAs difficulty.

I made a STF level 30 standard 18/21 yumi bow with tatar arrows and was able to do very well with it. It is simple aiming and if you stop moving you get almost pinpoint accuracy to match amazing damage.

I epeend some screenshots to show how effective HA really is. I didnt play it too much because I could feel the autism growing inside me, but I have to say it's not for "pros only" and "high level needed"

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