Lance cav angle

[NJ_Legion_Icedtea]

I play lance cav too and love the homosexuality 

[Ikarus]

I stopped playing glance cav, it´s a pain in the butt and not worth the costs

[Joseph Porta]

I stopped playing glance cav, it´s a pain in the butt and not worth the costs

Obviously that is the case if attack targets in their back when they move away from you..

[Teeth]

Get a Heavy Lance and develop some tricks and good timing and you can take on most of the infantry while they are aware. Since the sweetspot fix of one handed polestab (hoplites and lancers) the Heavy Lance doesn't glance at all and you can use every bit of it's reach. You are only forced to backstab if you're bad. In that case just take a normal lance or become slasher cav for higher damage output.

[Nehvar]

I don't think giving them wider lance angles is going to make cav play any less douche-y.

[Ikarus]

Get a Heavy Lance and develop some tricks and good timing and you can take on most of the infantry while they are aware. Since the sweetspot fix of one handed polestab (hoplites and lancers) the Heavy Lance doesn't glance at all and you can use every bit of it's reach. You are only forced to backstab if you're bad. In that case just take a normal lance or become slasher cav for higher damage output.

Still not good enough, you may master lance cav, but it´s way more worth it to spend your time on more efficient builds.

Why become
an elite lance cav to kill decent players
when you can become
a decent 1h cav/2h/thrower/archer/xbow/shielder to kill elite players?

[Joseph Porta]

Get a Heavy Lance and develop some tricks and good timing and you can take on most of the infantry while they are aware. Since the sweetspot fix of one handed polestab (hoplites and lancers) the Heavy Lance doesn't glance at all and you can use every bit of it's reach. You are only forced to backstab if you're bad. In that case just take a normal lance or become slasher cav for higher damage output.

And thats a problem I have with it aswell, I don't want to use the heavy lance because it doesn't suit my playstyle - it is too slow to my liking. It doesn't give me the flexibilty I like with the regular Lance, its stab is extremely slow and you have to release very early in the situation for it to work its length.

I like to play very offensively and the heavy lance doesn't provide me with the ability to swing out a quick stab, its still a weapon with which you need to plan your move seconds ahead, i cant just turn 90 degrees and go for the enemy 6meters away (it takes planning, lol. But im not a controlled player, im an unbalanced violent fool  )

Though this is just a personal matter and it is a bit biased because the weapon has its obvious pro's over the lance and I nerf myself by refusing to use it but I do stand by my point that I should be able to do OK (its not that I do extremely bad though) with the regular lance.

[ARN_]

Good cav like musashi can already do magic with the lance as it is and you want to buff it? If you can't do good with it then you are just bad, just practice a bit

[Torben]

the turnratenerf doesnt help either,  an agi guy can move faster then one can adjust ones (heavy)lance.

however,  porta:  get a str build and a heavy lance,  and you can take on a lot of aware guys.

[Riddaren]

I agree with Ikarus (who is were one of the best lance cav players imo).

The lancer class is only good as long as you stick to attacking unaware or unskilled opponents.
It's the same no matter what build, horse or lance you use, except if you use a great lance, which can be used to attack even the skilled and aware 2H players.

[Ikarus]

I agree with Ikarus (who is were one of the best lance cav players imo).

And that said by Riddaren, wow...th..thank you 

Good cav like musashi can already do magic with the lance as it is and you want to buff it? If you can't do good with it then you are just bad, just practice a bit

Musashi is an exception, but isn´t he also using arabic? Surely an agile horse is deadly with lance, but one, two arrows or one bolt and you´re grounded; that can get frustrating quickly. Only effective if there are barely ranged players online (lol), not suitable for these days. So it´s back to backstabbing.

[San]

I think that the great lance has less maximum potential than the other available melee cav options, even if it's much easier to use and very difficult for most to fight against it head-on. Not being confined to move at couching speeds to attack and being able to bump+stab or slash are some key advantages that the great lance doesn't have without a backup weapon.

Once you move up to a horse that can soak up hits, you'll be able to deal with good opponents with a lance or 1h. The power of bumps and tankiness of heavier horses by themselves are great assets.

I also think people are underestimating the lances when comparing them to 1h/2h cav. I find them all roughly equivalent but similarly some of the best classes in the game. As you move from the heavy lance to the light lance, bump stabbing becomes easier as the speed increases. The regular lance probably has the best deal with decent lingering hitboxes and a good combination of speed + damage + length, while the heavy and light lances specialize in 2/4.

I think that spears on horseback are limited to just bump-stabbing people, so that's why I think those shorter weapons would benefit from an increased angle. It would make them similar to 1h/2h cav while offering a unique touch.

[Grumbs]

I don't think giving them wider lance angles is going to make cav play any less douche-y.

Changing the lance angle won't make them suddenly behave more honourably..they will just get access to easier unblockable attacks alongside the normal backstabs.

[Joseph Porta]

I think that spears on horseback are limited to just bump-stabbing people, so that's why I think those shorter weapons would benefit from an increased angle. It would make them similar to 1h/2h cav while offering a unique touch.

Would be cool, would finally make my throwing-hoplite-cav char work effectively. 

[Mr.K.]

Iirc the lance angle can't be changed depending on the weapon length unless using WSE2. And forcing WSE2 doesn't seem to be happening for whatever reason. That's what I think cmp or someone once said.

Heavy lance has more reach than a great lance and timed right it can outreach any 2H stab and most polearms. Lance cav is a lot harder than 1H/2H cav, but done right it can do some epic shit which could be a problem if it's buffed. I do a lot better as 1H/2H cav, but that class has it's limitations compared to lance cav.