UK peeps, thinking of ever voting in your life? Must see!

[Tomas_Miles_again]

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Got an interesting fact: We've never had a bad Green Party Government.

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Ok true for UKIP too, but Green policies better overall

[Kafein]

Where's the money?


Also, "green" party proposing to "end fuel poverty" what?

[Oberyn]

My biggest beef with the Greens in almost every (every, even? I don't know every single Green euro party's stances) euro country is their stance on nuclear power. It is portrayed as even more horrifying and destructive than coal or oil or gas by relying on fearmongering and propaganda, and I completely disagree. You should see the stuff that has been appearing on the net since Fukushima happened, so much blatant misinformation. And this isn't new, this fear and disgust of nuclear power. Fact is all the so-called sustainable forms of energy are nothing more than pipedreams atm. They are not realistic replacements. I see nuclear as, at worst, the only possible stopgap solution, something to rely on while making the transition between overreliance on fossil fuels and simultaneously pouring funding into scientific solutions that may one day be viable. I really doubt their "increased science funding" encompasses nuclear for example, despite the giant strides that have been made since it's discovery, and that it is an actual alternative that can only get more efficient and attractive with further breakthroughs.

[Chosen1]

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Green Party? Sounds more like the Communist party to me.

[Osiris]

Nationalise everything because the govt runs everything efficiently! 



*hope labour never nationalise anything. they ruined our economy and are nearly bankrupt as a party

[Tomas_Miles_again]

I have to say I do disagree with their stance on nuclear power, but I think most of their policies are healthier for our country on the whole. I would rather have our infrastructure under the responsibility of government than businesses that operate for profit.
Afaik the Greens also prioritise military funding pretty low and would probably push for nuclear disarmament, something that all nations should do imo.
And universal living wage. Surely the investment would actually be worth it?

http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/ed.html

[Oberyn]

Afaik the Greens also prioritise military funding pretty low and would probably push for nuclear disarmament, something that all nations should do imo.

Yes, it makes sense if it's something done worldwide, and good luck with that. Doing so without that guarantee is extremely foolish and naive.

[LordBerenger]

I have to say I do disagree with their stance on nuclear power, but I think most of their policies are healthier for our country on the whole. I would rather have our infrastructure under the responsibility of government than businesses that operate for profit.
Afaik the Greens also prioritise military funding pretty low and would probably push for nuclear disarmament, something that all nations should do imo.
And universal living wage. Surely the investment would actually be worth it?

http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/ed.html

And then best Korea is only nation in the world with nukes and rules the world. GG well played.


Also i always get the feeling that if a Green party would rule a country the hipsters would have an orgasm.

[Molly]

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My biggest beef with the Greens in almost every (every, even? I don't know every single Green euro party's stances) euro country is their stance on nuclear power. It is portrayed as even more horrifying and destructive than coal or oil or gas by relying on fearmongering and propaganda, and I completely disagree. You should see the stuff that has been appearing on the net since Fukushima happened, so much blatant misinformation. And this isn't new, this fear and disgust of nuclear power. Fact is all the so-called sustainable forms of energy are nothing more than pipedreams atm. They are not realistic replacements. I see nuclear as, at worst, the only possible stopgap solution, something to rely on while making the transition between overreliance on fossil fuels and simultaneously pouring funding into scientific solutions that may one day be viable. I really doubt their "increased science funding" encompasses nuclear for example, despite the giant strides that have been made since it's discovery, and that it is an actual alternative that can only get more efficient and attractive with further breakthroughs.

I really have to wonder how you come to the conclusion that there isn't a viable alternative while blaming misinformation and propaganda on others

[Teeth]

7 policies that cost a lot of money, where is the money gonna come from?

[FleetFox]

Nice thread Tomas, the Greens are having a major surge in popularity, I need to become a member actually. Of course you wont hear much of this surge because our press focus on UKIP.

Nationalise everything because the govt runs everything efficiently! 



*hope labour never nationalise anything. they ruined our economy and are nearly bankrupt as a party

Oh you mean like the effiency of the private sector? Come on as if... Just look at your privatised rail service always being late.

The Green Party would be the best option for our country, we just need to convince people that it is. As to the nuclear power discussion, the sheer cost of building the damned nuclear power plants, then dismantling them safely, finding a place for the waste is something you really need to think about. Yes France has most of its power from Nuclear and it may be used for a transition source, but the problem is that al of money goes into the Nuclear Industry which would be much better spend on those new technologies that are ready ,wind  and solar for example. Hydrogen is our best bet for a really "clean" source. Nuclear may well be deemed carbon free but its not. It takes a lot of fossil fuels to mine the Uranium Ore and transport that from Australia for example. I could go into a lot of detail but I dont have the time.

After Fukishima, the safefty of these nuclear plants are certainly under question.

7 policies that cost a lot of money, where is the money gonna come from?

lol thats the easy part, we have a sea of ultra rich who dodge tax. We just need to totally shut all these loop holes which involve tax havens and the like and then set a wealth tax similar to what Thomas Pikkety has suggested. There is plenty of money its just needs to be spent more smartly and in the interests of everyone not just the elite...

P.s Im voting Green!

[Nightmare798]

And then best Korea is only nation in the world with nukes and rules the world. GG well played.

Their military is a fucking joke tho. They still use outdated AK-47s and RPG-7s.

[FleetFox]

And then best Korea is only nation in the world with nukes and rules the world. GG well played.


Also i always get the feeling that if a Green party would rule a country the hipsters would have an orgasm.

These comments can't be serious surely? If they are then you got a real problem there buddy. The North Korean threat is completely over stated, America has them easily covered, don't you worry about a thing. If there are people to be concerned its the South Korean people but again no nukes would make it before being shot down.

[LordBerenger]

Don't underestimate Kim Jong Un. He's the future of planet Earth.

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North Korea Best Korea

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

In Australia the greens party get all of their policies costed by external economics organisations and actually finds ways to pay for it in the budget. From reading this thread it leads me to believe that the UK greens just rant like crazy people... Is that the case?