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AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« on: January 08, 2011, 09:27:33 am »
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For all people here who would like a little bit of a challenge here is a playstyle that isnt seen often on the field.

SWASHBUCKLIN'
(aka using a 1 handed weapon without a shield)

First thing first this require skill in manual blocking, go practise it with a 2 hander if you must but practise first, you can try to go after peasant to get the hang of it, helped me a lot on my way there. You can keep a shield at the beginning to help agaisnt better players if you want, its up to you.


Well it is pretty close to fighting with a 2 handed weapon but on paper you will de toast'd agaisnt everything.

So keep these things in mind:

Generally you'll have the speed advantage, makes spamming easier, but you shouldnt relay on it too much. This allows you to pump a bit more in str to compensate for the lower damage output of your weapon. You wont need shield skill, at least not as much (I get 3-4 points in shield/athletics/weapon master). The rest goes in str since you will bounce a lot more often otherwise.

However your weapon is also lighter which mean than you well feel some sort of ''stun lock'' every once in a while when you parry an attack. After getting stun locked, you shouldnt try to attack as most of the time your enemy will be faster, having his (or her!) attack ready while you were busy being stunned.

More of a general tip really but getting used to your weapon range helps a lot! Go use it in single player a bit if you aren't sure.

Since you wont need a super shield and that 1 handers are cheaper than 2 handers, you will be able to afford a better armor, use that to your advantage. I personally prefer to go in plate with that but its quite hard right now. (Y'know... upkeep and all that crap bla bla bal :wink:)

Feinting is your friend too, with your high speed you may be able to sneak a hit or two. Dont abuse it however, as an impatient one might just smash through your wiggling.

Well I think I covered all that was needed for this, good luck to you and maybe the Swashbucklin' spirit be with you.


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Useful tip from other users

1-on-1, fighting without a shield is still superior. In addition to the weapon stun, your weapon length allows the polearm or large 2hander user to kite you. Bob mentioned this, but I think it needs to be emphasized. You have to be aware of how far away the enemy is at all times. If they're out of reach or at an angle where their longer weapon will hit you first despite your faster weapon speed, you're going to have to block or dodge multiple times. Going on the defensive and lulling them into a sense of security is often advisable, unless you're facing a skilled player.

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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 05:51:07 pm »
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Is swashbuckling using 1h without shield?
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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 12:10:07 am »
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I expected a guide on which items look the most piratey. Personally, I can't decide on a hat.

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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 12:12:17 am »
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A lot of these points can be easily applied to those who use short 2h weapons. That said, I fully intend to try this on for size once my 1-hander is levelled up. Sans armour, of course!

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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 12:25:28 am »
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A lot of these points can be easily applied to those who use short 2h weapons. That said, I fully intend to try this on for size once my 1-hander is levelled up. Sans armour, of course!

Dead meat is not a valid build. If you don't use armor, AND don't use a shield, you can try to sneak around, but you will still get shot many many times.

Also, I think that only 3-4 in WM combined with heavy armor will make your swings very slow.
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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 12:27:33 am »
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swashbucklers were not known for having heavy armor.

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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 01:52:15 am »
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Whenever I'm in for a bit of adventure (i.e underleveled) I'll run around in a tunic with only my nordic sword. Ambushes and sneak attacks are the norm at that point. For example, if facing multiple opponents ample use of the tilde key while feigning retreats will lead to kills, or at least hits. Occasionally, I run through the group following me and either cause team wounding or get some kills myself. Of course, good blocking ability is neccesary but not as much as the ability to dodge/situational awareness.

Ignoring poorly armed opponents is good as well, they get in the way of those with better weapons who have to be killed first.

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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2011, 05:56:47 am »
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Its SWASHBUCKLIN' not swashbuckling!

Details man, details, and oh... made the small text, should be clear now


Sans armour, of course!

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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 06:37:03 am »
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Ye ain't no pirate landblubber.
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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 07:13:52 am »
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This is Swashbucklin' you sea dog! You best be paying goddamn respect!
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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 08:22:20 am »
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I'll pay with me keg full of powder on ye ship here.
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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 08:26:17 am »
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Dem, pirates...
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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2011, 08:30:37 am »
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I am thinking of becoming a swashbuckler myself.  I am debating which sword to get:

Long Espada Eslavona   8026   
weight 1.25
requirement 10
spd rtng 98
weapon length 103  <-- Longer reach
swing damage 29, cut
thrust damage 28 pierce

or

Side Sword   8922   
weight 1.3
requirement 8
spd rtng 101  <--Faster speed
weapon length 95
swing damage 32, cut  <--Better cut
thrust damage 26 pierce

Which one would you recommend and why?
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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2011, 08:56:48 am »
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Long espada. Without a shield, length means everything- if you're agility based. Side sword if you're going to be a tank.

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Re: AH AH! A guide to swashbucklin'
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2011, 09:16:09 am »
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Long espada. Without a shield, length means everything- if you're agility based. Side sword if you're going to be a tank.

Kalam, thanks for the answer, I have seen you play and I know that you are very good.  I am going for a 15/21 build with medium armour.  I was thinking of going shieldless during none peek hours with a few players on and with shield when there is a full 120 server. What would you suggest? 
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