Muslims, really?

[Gnjus]

I've learned 3 things from all these dramatic threads across this forum:

1. Christo is anything but a calm Hungarian fatty pacifist who occasionally strives for a bit of drama
2. Cicero persistently types "retarted" instead of "retarded", only he knows why
3. Xant is a moron beyond repair, "arguing" with him is a waste of keyboard & brain cells

Stay calm and keep learning.

[Christo]

Christo ; i really didnt know you were that much dumb and retard.

Harun is just trying to argue and share this thought about the most retarted topic and actually he is not insulting or humiliating for fuck sake.

Even he answered your retarted post as "Chill" ;  whats ur fuckin problem ?

1 ) 14 years old

2 ) On period

3 ) Your father / mother hit you with hosepipe or ironed when you were 6 years old.

I am pretty sure you are trying to show how cool you are but dude calm the fuck down you wont get attention for that anymore dont be DaveUKR ; dont be an attention whore.

Guess who is jumping in here as the biggest retard possible.

You and your herd mentality. Harun can talk on his own.

Stay classy with your personal insults, Cicero.

I like how you want me to be calm. Why do you think I'm angry? Not my fault that you can't think out of the box and immediately start throwing insults, like a complete imbecile or so. It doesn't seem that you are really fond of arguing in general, either. You can't seem to think in an original way, but only fall back to personal attacks about a topic that you call "retarded". Tip: Your ignorance doesn't make a topic of discussion retarded. Quite on the contrary, in fact.

Your shitty insults are not even worth responding to.

As I've said before, Turkish defense mechanism in motion. Proving it post-by-post.

Thanks.

[Cicero]

I cant even pity on you

Why the fuck i should defence something ? Especially against you ?

Please explain us why or what the fuck i am defending right now ?

Or nevermind live in your little world.You got crpg forum express yourself ; you got accomplished one more maslow pyramid , you belong here gratz.

[Christo]

Your own foolishness.

[Cicero]

Your own foolishness.

Nope you wont get Esteem level.

Ow  minuses for my posts ? What shall i do now ?

I am pretty sure my boss will fire me due to those minuses.

[Christo]

Yep, keep going in that direction.

Again prove it post-by-post how much of a retard you are. Your methods are childish and unimpressive, your tone is of a child as well.
Changing from personal attacks to a different subject or style of provocation when you are confronted with how stupid you are.

You totally deserve that PM you have. Sheep.

[Joseph Porta]

Srsly, discussing religion is digging your own grave. I thought you guys were like old and mature, and knew this  this will go on to page infinite, or untill someone gets bored of making the same statement, allthough in a different cover, all over again.

[Cicero]

Do you even type something different ?

Or the only thing that u can is typing same things in different words ?

I am not using any methods ; you are raging

You still cant explain why we are using a self defence system against you actually this shows how retard you are because you have said that for at least 10 times in 1 topic. Every time you got a proper answer you started self defence.

Like i said you never get esteem ; i even respect to down sendrome boy's thought more than yours because that boy accept his problem.

[Christo]

I am not raging, the defense mechanism is not against me, not my fault that you can't realize it yourself from all those examples.

Again, how would you, when you are the one proving it?

Exactly, you are not using any kind of method. You are too narrowminded for that. Sorry for overestimating you.

Learn about some definitions, get a sense of basic logic to connect things, then come back. Sure you can ridicule me all you want, It doesn't make it any less true. The thing that you think it's only rage shows how unintelligent you are, when met with a non-conformist, not politically correct view that isn't the kindest of them all. You are not used to this, and definitely not ready for it now.

[Cicero]

Lets try to work something else maybe u can understand it now ?

Read all of my posts.Show me 1 sentence that i was talking about the "topic".I was talking about how retarted you are ; not because of topic ; the reason was your acts.

I am pretty sure you will answer me as self defence again.Which u again did 

I am bored.

[Christo]

Read all of my posts.

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You are just a braindead sheep.

[Cicero]

Self what ?

[Christo]

Every step you take, you only ridicule yourself.

[Joseph Porta]

Internet 'discussion' everyone loses, the one who keeps talking and insulting longer gets to feel like they won.

Religion debate on every thread involves the same people saying the same things, although this is the first time i've seen anyone apart from myself argue a non-atheist perspective. Normally it's just everying repeating each other about how clever and atheist they are and how they dont waste any time discussing religion... for dozens of pages.

Heh, I don't believe in god as a deity that could materialize or practice influence on the world around us, but I rather see god(or Allah or whatevs) as a means through which people can find peace of mind and a safe feeling. But to each their own, discussing wether or not he is fake is pointless with a believer, I mean they belief, don't they?

Also claiming the beliefs of a person are rediculous and fake is rude.

[Armpit_Sweat]

You should teach a master-class in 'How to argue your own opinion without evidence in a way that 7 year-olds will believe'. Because nobody older than that is being swayed by your opinions, no matter how often you repeat them or insult them.

3. Xant is a moron beyond repair, "arguing" with him is a waste of keyboard & brain cells 

 
Imo Xant is a rather intelligent man... Have you read those links he posted?

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http://lesswrong.com/lw/mn/absolute_authority/
http://lesswrong.com/lw/mo/infinite_certainty/
http://lesswrong.com/lw/mp/0_and_1_are_not_probabilities/

I once attempted to read some of that blog, and it made my head hurt:
 
Morality is not arbitrary. taken from here:
 

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Wikipedia - and with that, all the sources cited as well as many others - certainly seems to think so. I'd say it depends on the animal: I wouldn't directly compare the "altruism" of ants to the altruism of humans, if the former even deserves the term. Insects are a long way from humans, though, so it's more useful to look at closer relatives, such as apes, where the whole affair is more tortuous than is the case with ants (and other insects, for that matter).
 
What is the difference between acting altruistic and understanding the concept of altruism and applying it because it is intellectually pleasing? You will encounter a strange loop sooner or later with the latter and in the end it all boils down to the former. 
We are not in disagreement here. Certainly, it can be enough to simply convince someone that another person is an Enemy to get their empathy to switch off.
 
My points is merely that it is not quite this simple:Rather, what they know and have been taught is built upon a foundation of core values, or natural inclinations, if you will. Those values can be corrupted and twisted, but that is more unusual than not: in general you will find that humanity as a whole follows a very similar set of "base rules" of morality. 
Morality is not arbitrary. A culture/religion/sect can corrupt an individuals view of "good" and "evil", but it'll only be a corruption. And always, to my knowledge, a hypocritical one, when it happens ("it is Good to do this to others, but Evil when done to me/us"). That shows there is an inherent, underlying understanding of Right and Wrong and the justification is tacked on superficially, a belief in belief.
 
And yes, yes they can. A mistake in reasoning or, more commonly, religion (though one could argue those are one and the same - it is much more often a question of intellectual honesty than intellectual capacity). But as already established, I don't disagree with you about that.

 
And how about
 

... Bayesian thinking.

Honestly, how many of you know what Bayesian thinking is?... I don't, never even heard of it before
Xant is not a friendly fellow, and he hates women, but does not strike me as stupid...