Personally I think all fief transfers done through attack should be bannable, or otherwise disallowed. Part of strat is choosing the right person to own a fief and having them do things properly.
Just so we're clear, I was the initial complainant about this. If you remember, when smooth and blackzilla did this last strat it was heibous, and they should have been punished. I didn't go through the forum posts route, I went straight to irc and talking to the admins directly. You see, I believe in the integrity of Strategus. That is, until all the gear gets duped, then you better get your exp while the exp is good.
However, onto the matter of Dutchy himself. Let us not forget his multiple instances of foul play last strat. He item bombed Ichamur last Strat when Matey owned it, prompting a thread to complain about that. Unfortunately, nothing again was done by our fabulous Dev/admin team, because this is NA and we should all go fuck ourselves. For those of you wondering, he still managed to fail misrebly in taking Ichamur. Now, that was not the only instance for Dutchy. After FCC took Reyvadin (I think, perhaps Curaw), the FCC went after every KUTT member fleeing the city as if they were children who had just opened a piñata. KUTT, who had actually never bothered showing up for battles they felt they would lose, all of a sudden started showing up just to retreat. Normally, that would be no big deal, but there was a big at the time, causing retreating defenders to actually win their battles. Sure, one time could be called a mistake, but I was recently reminded that this happened three or four times, multiple times after the big was reported on the forums. Someone had even fingered Dutchy as directly responsible for every instance. How he was able to figure this out, I'm not sure but said informant is very reliable and does not get things wrong. I'm sure the rosters are available somewhere in the great Strategus 4 archives if the matter had to be further investigated.
So, in closing, I would have to say: Dutchy, sorry, but you have no place in Strategus. Your history speaks for you and you continually manage to damage the integrity of Strategus and I have no reason to believe you will ever stopped unless your ban remains.
As an aside, Artyem's context is entirely different. He has just taken an AI fief, and there was no one in the area in direct contest with Artyem's fief. Dutchy, the owner of Bulugar was attacked right on top of the village less than half a day before the battle was to take place and the fief logically attacked next since the owner was getting teleported. That is an awfully convenient excuse for someone who has a history of abusing bugs. Bear in mind that it was you who declared eternal war for Bulugar, you are only making yourself look worse.
Wow Murder if your going to also talk about integrity you really should get your facts straight, lets not forget how you threatened me with exploited gear last strat if LL attacked your castle or the fact that when we attacked your village as we didn't realize who your clan was and I came to offer to undo this you demanded large amount of troops from me and when I refused you banned all LL from your xp battles(not that we played in any before that). So using exploited gear for pathetic xp battles has loads of integrity doesn't it? Not participating in the actual strat and having meaningless xp battles aslo has plenty of integrity?
Now lets get this straight I didn't item bomb anything ever but you seem to finger me out for this. KUTT never won any battles from fleeing all we got was some gear and it was only small amounts and at the time and people thought it was a bug but in actual fact it was a mechanic of the game in the end but I still got a bann for that and I admit that was most likely due to the way I gloated in the forums and excepted that bann even though I still say bullshit.
"If the owner is stupid enough to get teleported, he must deal with the consequences. This is a strategy game , there are no unfair mechanics, just stupid strategists."
Whats that got to do with anything? I had my army and LL had 2 other large armys around Bulugur anyway it was actually a mistake by Tydeus to attack the token and not the village and probally realized this and had a cry to you about his mistake.
Im not surprised your behind this as I have had the pleasure of speaking with you in TS several times and personally I have found you to be a complete dickhead and if you acted like that in front of me in real life you would be getting an ambulance.
So in hind sight I should of made an issue thread about me not being able to do anything in the village im lord of.
