well if you're only going to post half the story then of course you will have two pages of uninformed people saying "how dare they" or "why no use non lethal".
1) This event had been going on for around like 4 hours
2) The original call was dispatched to local law enforcement, whom responded, and then called for a crisis team because the man had clear issues and refused to respond while holding 2 knives
3) They talked to him, he refused to comply, they threw a flashbang and told him to comply, he refused, they sent a dog on him, he brandishes two knives and attempts to get the dog off him while wielding two knives then turns away to do who knows what, maybe get another weapon from his gear, maybe get a gun from his waist band, you really dont know till after the fact, and then at that point its okay for everyone to monday morning quarterback you.
4)while lying on the ground, he still refuses to drop the damn knives, yet says he cant move, but can move his legs and talk just fine. They shoot beanbags at him, he still refuses to comply, they send the dog for assurance, then move to arrest him. You really can never be to safe, who is to say when they approach he doesnt lunge out and stab someone, why take that chance?
I cant really swing either way on this one, but you really have to question how much time and money can really be spent on issues like these. I also dont see any problems with the use of the beanbags while he is laying on the ground, and dont forget, its all in the eyes of the person, if it looked like the dog was being struck at with a knife, well he is technically assaulting an officer with a weapon. There is also this always ever present idea from people that you cant shoot people in the back, as if thats some sort of real thing. Either way, and this is my personal opinion, its okay for people who have never been trained to over criticize law enforcement, but god forbid someone comes to your job and harasses the piss out of you on how you arent doing your job correctly, the shoe is never on the other foot, you never see in the news, "man pours concrete wrong way, doesnt smooth in circles" or "grocery bagger puts dairies with packaged meat, faces heavy criticism and may lose job because angry soccer mom hails manager".
Either way, im trying to be informative, and atleast have a fair discussion rather then the normal shock and awe that is the typical comments.
im sure someone will comeback with a witty response with life is more precious then time or money.
Dont forget, he is wielding knives, im not sure of many people who would want to close the gap with a knife wielding man to put some pepper spray in his face, lol, you have to be so fucking close to people to spray them that at any point they could near reach out and fucking grab you.
The taser wont really work on heavy clothing, like sweaters or multiple layers of clothing, one would have to have the long probed version, which in New Mexico they might not even bother to purchase since its rather warm near year round.(if you ever want to be a taserless man, buy one of those puffy jackets, they are fucking impenetrable lol
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What the fuck? I got so many questions from this video. For instance, who in the right mind deploys automatic rifles for illegal camping? They say "get on the ground" and then they shoot him when he was clearly trying to comply? Why did they shoot lethal rounds first and why did they shoot the non lethal rounds after? Was that flashbang really necessary? They say "drop the knife" when the guys is half dead on the floor and then shoot him up some more, WTF?
A flashbang, a dog, 3 guys in tactical gear with kevlar vests and automatic rifles? I guess they just saw the homeless guy as an oportunity to test their gear out....
has so many questions, i answer them, they dont comply with his attempted propaganda, minuses person, must be wrong........
1)they called their crisis teams out, this instead had been occurring and tying up resources for hours, those beat cops have to go back to their patrols and leave it to the teams to handle.
2)the response teams have assault rifles, thats a standard, they didnt send them to deal with an illegal camper you dult.
3)at what point was he complying? before the first 4 hours, or after the last 12 shouts to get on the ground, he then starts to walk away from them. At no point was he complying
4)they shot non lethal rounds afterwards because why would you shoot him again? they arent trying to kill him, they are trying to disarm him
5)you bitch and moan about why they dont use non lethal weapons, then you ask if the flashbang was necessary......
6)they never shot him again after he was on the ground, they shot him with bean bag rounds
like i said, please go spread your misinformation and propaganda elsewhere.......
