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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2014, 07:58:49 pm »
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People would have felt better if he was holding a gun. Two knives aint impressive enough. Thats all they see.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2014, 08:00:37 pm »
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I'm glad people are playing the jump to conclusions game already.  I guess it's worth mentioning that James Boyd had a history of attacking people with knives, box cutters, and even broke a female officer's nose in 2010.  They flash banged him, shot him with bean bags, yet he still didn't comply and refused to go down.

No, they shot him with live ammunition. Not bean bags. They shot him with bean bags after they'd shot him with real ammo.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2014, 08:03:45 pm »
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Actually, yeah, they did shoot him with bean bags first.  They also attempted to use a flashbang on him as well as a trained police dog.

I'm sure the Government is backing these shootings 100%, Obama probably gave the order to shoot the guy.

oh wait, the Albuquerque Police Department is now under investigation by the Department of Justice because of these situations.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2014, 08:04:42 pm »
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Actually, yeah, they did shoot him with bean bags first.  They also attempted to use a flashbang on him as well as a trained police dog.
Actually, no, they did not shoot him with bean bags first. Yes, they used a flash bang after he was starting to do as told. And they did put a trained (does this detail add something?) police dog near him.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2014, 08:07:56 pm »
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"As Boyd is moving, officers then threw a flash bang and released a K9 which appears to bite Boyd in the hand. Chief Eden said officers also used a taser gun and bean bag rounds. Two officers, Dominque Perez and Keith Sandy then both fired three bullets each from their department issued rifles, causing Boyd to fall to the ground."

http://krqe.com/2014/03/21/apd-officer-involved-shooting-was-justified/

http://www.vice.com/read/albequerque-shooting-james-boyd

even Vice mentions the use of bean bags before the lethal shooting
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2014, 08:08:38 pm »
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.... Yes, they shot him with bean bag rounds. AFTER he was shot with live ammunition six times. Once again. Watch the video.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2014, 08:08:57 pm »
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He was shot with bean bags before the video was taken, do you even read?


quote from the Vice article

"Cops first used a flash-bang grenade and beanbags against Boyd, but they didn't incapacitate him, so the police shot an unknown number of live rounds at him, at least one of which struck him."
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2014, 08:11:50 pm »
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No, they did not engage him before the video. And the bean bags were shot after the live ammunition, which were shot after the flash bang was thrown.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2014, 08:16:06 pm »
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I'm sure the Government is backing these shootings 100%, Obama probably gave the order to shoot the guy.

Obama ? "killing innocent people, uh uh !"

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2014, 08:20:22 pm »
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It's funny how Artyem treats one Vice article as The Ultimate and Final Truth when it's clearly written by someone misinformed. First, they don't even know the number of shots - six - and second, it's obvious they're just confused from the fact that a flash bang was indeed thrown, and bean bags were indeed shot, and live rounds were also shot, but not in the order they claim. It's not a big wonder they're confused, though, because the order it was done in makes no fucking sense, which is the point.

Now, if the Vice article was not misinformed, they would not say "Cops first used a flash-bang grenade and beanbags against Boyd, but they didn't incapacitate him, so the police shot an unknown number of live rounds at him." Why would they mention a flash bang grenade and bean bags from an "incident before" (did not happen, there were people present with cameras the whole time, even before the SWAT team arrived), but not the flash bang and bean bags that were thrown and shot on the video?

Anyone with IQ of >100 would easily deduce this from available information. And this is not even all, I could go on for an hour about why it's obvious.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2014, 08:22:34 pm »
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Why would anyone need a description?  Just watch the video...
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2014, 08:28:18 pm »
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4:05 best bit :P

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2014, 08:33:09 pm »
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the feelings this video makes me have:

sad
mad
murderous
withdrawn
lol (they fucking flash-banged a homeless dude just standing there, i feel like im watching a tim and eric cs:go skit)
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2014, 08:34:18 pm »
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This is how the German police handles knife guys:

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Kinda removes the need to pump a stabbist full of projectiles before getting near him. Too fun-hating for the US though.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2014, 08:35:27 pm »
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Add a crowbar and that'd be a very good kit.
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