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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #300 on: September 16, 2014, 02:51:10 am »
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Cellphones are easy way to track someone but not the scariest. Yes there are voice records, bunch of pictures, videos, other private documents. But using smartphone in such ways is like giving them the right to track you. Higher fidelity satellite images are what is really terrifying. Number of commercial satellites serving that very purpose is increasing every day and your government is issuing right to commercial businesses to use equipment that is capable of taking images of increasingly higher resolution. Right now I think the limit is at 50 cm for pixel size. If it stays that way, it won't be that much of a issues. But if it goes down, there might be a problem, big problem.

I'm not talking about typical conspiracy theory where USA government is tracking us, that is now taken for granted. I'm talking about having thousands of civilian companies having the same right. Soon we'll be able to see every fine detail on services on Google Street Maps and with computer technology growing by leaps and bounds in few decades those still images will be converted into real time 3D highly realistic interactive videos (practically something like video games). There will be virtually no place to hide, voluntary or not everybody will be tracked in every imaginable way by multiple parties at the same time. So far only Paypal has access to my bank account, in the future every single service provider (common term for IT companies of the future, because they will be providing various services) will have access to your bank account and not just that. Number of tracking sensors on "smart" technological units will increase and they all will be interconnected and companies will claim they won't use that data for their own gain (one huge lie). So far only smartphones are the massive thing. In the future smartwatches market will grow, smart home appliances will spread to less fortunate when they find a way to cut the prices. Augmented reality glasses and virtual reality headsets hand in hand will provide entertainment and take our privacy away, collect as much data as possible and send it to huge clusters of computers for further alysis. This is happening already, but it's going to become many order of magnitude bigger.

You think movies depicted future as scary. You know nothing. It will be million times worse. Good thing, I won't be alive for more then 50 years from now and probably won't live during the worst times that are bound to come.

After all, no one with power gives a fuck about your 200 years old fourth amendment. There are businesses to be taken care of and it doesn't matter at what cost they come.

I acknowledge that. It's just very depressing to ponder.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #301 on: October 30, 2014, 12:00:38 pm »
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46 shots only, I'm sure you can do better than that!
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #302 on: October 30, 2014, 12:39:03 pm »
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Sure, Leshma, that's depressing to ponder indeed.

After all, what can we do? It's already happening.

We can simply embrace it, along with globalism, and live in a reality not much unlike the one in Atlas Cloud.

Humanity is eating away on itself.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #303 on: October 30, 2014, 11:53:38 pm »
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46 shots only, I'm sure you can do better than that!

Piss poor training and discipline for cowards with guns. That's all this is.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #304 on: October 31, 2014, 12:18:52 am »
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Piss poor training and discipline for cowards with guns. That's all this is.
There's that, but there's a disproportionate amount of incidents like this in the U.S. The issue has to stem from a more general LE mentality in the US. Their mindset seems very, very different from European cops.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #305 on: October 31, 2014, 12:25:32 am »
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There's that, but there's a disproportionate amount of incidents like this in the U.S. The issue has to stem from a more general LE mentality in the US. Their mindset seems very, very different from European cops.

There's no doubt about that.

But you also have to realize that a lot of areas have literally volunteers acting as sheriffs and deputies. These people receive little in terms of training and will seek to escalate the situation because they have no training to fall back on instead of a lot of practice firing their guns. Not to mention that many veterans end up being cops, and they retain the military mentality. When you spend your formative years in a environment where being trigger happy is a survival method it's hard to get rid of it.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #306 on: October 31, 2014, 01:07:57 am »
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There's no doubt about that.

But you also have to realize that a lot of areas have literally volunteers acting as sheriffs and deputies. These people receive little in terms of training and will seek to escalate the situation because they have no training to fall back on instead of a lot of practice firing their guns. Not to mention that many veterans end up being cops, and they retain the military mentality. When you spend your formative years in a environment where being trigger happy is a survival method it's hard to get rid of it.
Yeah, maybe. A lot of the former (and current) military guys I've seen speak about it tend to be very condescending towards the current generation of America's cops, though. I doubt they learn the poor trigger discipline in the military, especially since the US hasn't really been in an all out shooting war for what, ten years? From what I hear, the service members are held to very high standards abroad, and would get a lot of shit for acting like those cops.

Not sure if this was posted yet, but pretty funny. Dat training.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP0f00_JMak
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #307 on: October 31, 2014, 02:11:16 am »
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Yeah, maybe. A lot of the former (and current) military guys I've seen speak about it tend to be very condescending towards the current generation of America's cops, though. I doubt they learn the poor trigger discipline in the military, especially since the US hasn't really been in an all out shooting war for what, ten years? From what I hear, the service members are held to very high standards abroad, and would get a lot of shit for acting like those cops.

Not sure if this was posted yet, but pretty funny. Dat training.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP0f00_JMak

All out shooting wars are one thing, being an occupying force is another experience altogether. It's one thing to go out on patrol and expect to see a uniformed enemy and have a shooting war - you're expecting to meet an enemy and have a proper battle. It's a whole other experience to run checkpoints in an occupied country where any car coming up to you could be loaded with explosives. It's this uncertainty that leads to frayed nerves, and sometimes really bad shit happens when you put nervous people with guns in a country with an insurgency.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #308 on: October 31, 2014, 08:46:16 am »
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All out shooting wars are one thing, being an occupying force is another experience altogether. It's one thing to go out on patrol and expect to see a uniformed enemy and have a shooting war - you're expecting to meet an enemy and have a proper battle. It's a whole other experience to run checkpoints in an occupied country where any car coming up to you could be loaded with explosives. It's this uncertainty that leads to frayed nerves, and sometimes really bad shit happens when you put nervous people with guns in a country with an insurgency.

I'm sure some inner city cops have seen more urban warfare than some returning war veterans.

I think a big issue is that being an antisocial really mean probably raging alcoholic shithead who doesn't do your job right and inappropriately escalates situations kind of guy will get you fired from just about any job, especially if you are interacting with lots of people in stressful situations daily.

But cops who fuck up and do their jobs wrong end up being "internally investigated" instead of simply fired and if laws are broken, immediately charged with crimes. Fuck you bet some shit company like Wal Mart will file charges if some employee steals or physically assaults troublesome customers.

American police forces are run like a network of decentralized paramilitaries that are accountable to no one and effectively operate outside the law, believing they simply are instruments of the law instead of citizens who should be real scared of breaking them.

Civilian led federally funded oversight committees with the power to order anyone including the chief of police to resign and face charges in court with a and a mass-culling of shitheads to nuke out destructive "cop cultures" are kinds of reform I'd like to see, but lol at that..
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #309 on: October 31, 2014, 09:42:15 am »
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Wrong country for that, Smooth, wrong country.

The gardai (police on Ireland) are only armed in Limerick and high crime-rate areas.

In Dublin they don't even carry guns around.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #310 on: October 31, 2014, 12:16:28 pm »
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Wrong country for that, Smooth, wrong country.

The gardai (police on Ireland) are only armed in Limerick and high crime-rate areas.

In Dublin they don't even carry guns around.
Guns have little to do with it. Most of the police forces in Europe are armed, yet incidents like this are rare, almost non-existent.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #311 on: October 31, 2014, 12:53:10 pm »
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Guns have little to do with it. Most of the police forces in Europe are armed, yet incidents like this are rare, almost non-existent.

Naturally, our social welfare bubbles are very cozy and bigger ripples are created when the Police goes trigger happy.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #312 on: January 27, 2015, 09:25:05 am »
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #313 on: March 06, 2015, 02:11:48 pm »
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #314 on: March 06, 2015, 03:42:09 pm »
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