Buff katana stab.

[Thomek]

Well here we go again

Since new armor mechanics were introduced, the near useless stab has passed into total uselessness.

It's so risky trying a stab that it's simply not worth it. Therefore I ask for a small buff to stab, from 18 to say 20 pierce.
It would still be a weaker stab than all the other 2 handed swords, and 90% of the 1 handed swords, so I don't think it would suddenly make it more powerful and popular. (So I don't think the "keep katana numbers down" argument holds with such a small change)

The only people who actually use the katana use it for style reasons, and I don't think anyone else would suddenly take a liking to it.

That's really all. At this point in the history of the mod this is just fair I think.

[Molly]

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[Aksei]

if i compare it to the nearby swords it seems fair

[Templar_Steevee]

2 is too much, add 1 

It's funny to see buff katana posts again

Can someone make a nerf ballance ranged thread again, it's funny to read it. I can't do it myself because i'm an archer 

[Latvian]

katana stab is not useless , being strenghtless agiwhore is.

[korppis]

I don't mind the shitty stab as much as katana having so poor length/weight/speed ratio compared to BS/HBS/LS (not saying that katana needs a buff, but that those other swords were definitely overbuffed before). But yeah, even with 2 more stab all those other swords would still be more appealing.

[Kafein]

For a moment I assumed this is a joke thread but hey it's Thomek after all.

Due to the 2h stab animations, you can use your full range and do full damage with a katana. Try stabbing at range with a 1h and you'll get fucked no matter how much damage your weapon is supposed to do.

[Torben]

For a moment I assumed this is a joke thread but hey it's Thomek after all.

Due to the 2h stab animations, you can use your full range and do full damage with a katana. Try stabbing at range with a 1h and you'll get fucked no matter how much damage your weapon is supposed to do.

rly?  i have found the 1h stabs to be very useful lately... 

[Gurnisson]

Can be considered, 18 is laughably weak.

Due to the 2h stab animations, you can use your full range and do full damage with a katana. Try stabbing at range with a 1h and you'll get fucked no matter how much damage your weapon is supposed to do.

No

[Kafein]

rly?  i have found the 1h stabs to be very useful lately...

It's still better than before the buff, as in, better than unusable. However, the reduction in sweetspots was quite a drastic change. It reduced the range of the 1h stabs by a sizable margin, and once again the animation does not correspond to what you can actually do with it. I'm seriously considering going back to the scimitar.

[CrazyCracka420]

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[Phew]

A +3 Katana thrust does about half as much damage as the swings against your typical melee player (~60 armor). That seems pretty reasonable, considering the thrusts have nearly twice the reach of swings.

[Thomek]

The problem is really the constant glancing. And I know how to stab..

[Paul]

Because of the poor average quality of iron sand based steel and the inferior craftmanship of Japanese weaponsmiths in the 13th century, such a katana would shatter easily when thrusted with full force towards superior European metal armour. We have no weapon breaking system so we simply assume that the unfortunate wretch that has to fight with a katana knows that and thus stabs very carefully with light to moderate force. Thats why the thrust base damage is that low.

[Thomek]

Because of the poor average quality of iron sand based steel and the inferior craftmanship of Japanese weaponsmiths in the 13th century, such a katana would shatter easily when thrusted with full force towards superior European metal armour. We have no weapon breaking system so we simply assume that the unfortunate wretch that has to fight with a katana knows that and thus stabs very carefully with light to moderate force. Thats why the thrust base damage is that low.

lol well heres another argument:

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