Epic fail to small clans

[Erasmas]

To what end? What is the goal? Amassing gold? What is that going to get them other than better gear? They need incentive. Big groups get towns, castles, villages, titles, all kinds of notable stuff.

Grey Order was started by one guy. It took some time and effort to make it visible on the map - to get first village. It took a lot more time and effort to make it a clan that holds a castle. Holding a city was a dream for a long time, and seemed impossible in the world full of Templars, Mercs and other big clans. And there was far less incentives in first iterations of Strat.

It turned out it that things are difficult, but not impossible. Nothing changed in that respect in Strat 5.
 
Just get your shit together guys.

[Vibe]

Grey Order was started by one guy. It took some time and effort to make it visible on the map - to get first village. It took a lot more time and effort to make it a clan that holds a castle. Holding a city was a dream for a long time, and seemed impossible in the world full of Templars, Mercs and other big clans. And there was far less incentives in first iterations of Strat.

It turned out it that things are difficult, but not impossible. Nothing changed in that respect in Strat 5.
 
Just get your shit together guys.

what, how is that related to small clans, you are no small clan or are you advising small clans to get more people, because that's not what the discussion was about, or at least what I was saying

[GRANDMOM]

what, how is that related to small clans, you are no small clan or are you advising small clans to get more people, because that's not what the discussion was about, or at least what I was saying

We are not small - but alot of small clans and randomers can work together in a coordinated way and get much done, duringh our war against the Shoggies we have had lots of help from the little man, the little man is able to do stuff our members cant, and get something out of it. So, you are saying there is nothing for them to do and i say there is plenty - sign up to help one side in a war as an independent scout or raider - you are independent, small and free to do what you want but can still be part of bigger things. Get payed to do so or get good raiding possibilities through the intel you get in the war.

[Harpag]

I shouldn't advise you this, but the whole eastern part of the map should fill Grandmom & Kinngrimm orders. These two guys are very experienced organizers and great leaders. Do what they tell you and win. You have potential, but first you have to sort out this mess in internal relationships.

BTW - stop QQ - we don't give fuck about your stinky tears - there is no mercy.

FU & good luck.

[GRANDMOM]

I shouldn't advise you this, but the whole eastern part of the map should fill Grandmom & Kinngrimm orders. These two guys are very experienced organizers and great leaders. Do what they tell you and win. You have potential, but first you have to sort out this mess in internal relationships.

BTW - stop QQ - we don't give fuck about your stinky tears - there is no mercy.

FU & good luck.

Thanks Harpag, and you are not such a bad organiser yourself 

And again, to stay out of the "internal" problems we havent allied to anyone this round and we wont - people are free to help us and we help them, - but only as long as they fight Grey Order and puppets.....we are alone in terms of alliances

[Harpag]

..... as long as they fight Grey Order and puppets...

Fu Grandmom, if our friends are puppets, you are:

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...we havent allied to anyone this round and we wont...

Show me my diplomatic thread 

[Osiris]

I shouldn't advise you this, but the whole eastern part of the map should fill Grandmom & Kinngrimm orders. These two guys are very experienced organizers and great leaders. Do what they tell you and win. You have potential, but first you have to sort out this mess in internal relationships.

BTW - stop QQ - we don't give fuck about your stinky tears - there is no mercy.

FU & good luck.

problem with that is a lot of people don't consider kinn any better than evil UIF

[Harpag]

problem with that is a lot of people don't consider kinn any better than evil UIF

Why? This is not true. He is much better than the evil UIF... I don't understand what I did wrong...

[Fips]

problem with that is a lot of people don't consider kinn any better than evil UIF

He is still so much less of a threat, simply by looking at the numbers of players his UIF has.

[GRANDMOM]

Show me my diplomatic thread 

If you cant find your diplomacy thread - ask somebody else to show it to you, Im busy planning  how we will strike you 

[Tomas]

2nd/1st highest renown value in EU last Strat went to Osiris, a lone wolf for most of the end of Strat.

Renown last start was completely bugged and no reflection all of anything.

@Grandmom and Harpag

Nobody should be forced to ally into a huge block just to compete in Strat. But likewise nobody should be forced to split up a successful alliance just because it became too big. 

We had a game that allowed both small and large clans/alliances to compete on a map for over 15months but sadly we threw it away in favour of game where player numbers mean it was over before it even started

[GRANDMOM]

Renown last start was completely bugged and no reflection all of anything.

@Grandmom and Harpag

Nobody should be forced to ally into a huge block just to compete in Strat. But likewise nobody should be forced to split up a successful alliance just because it became too big. 

We had a game that allowed both small and large clans/alliances to compete on a map for over 15months but sadly we threw it away in favour of game where player numbers mean it was over before it even started

No forcing anyone to do anything Tomas - ask around and you will find out

[Ronin]

In other news HRE and Eques are now at war i hear xD so GG Eastern Superfriends, since we all know that at least one of those factions is part of a northern superalliance that will now be totally distracted from the bigger picture unless they demonstrate an uncharacteristic ability to let bygones be bygones and declare peace.

Well, if it's just Kalmar and their more reliable friends fighting the fight then it should still be a fight to remember.

This will be a strat to remember

[Harpag]

In other news HRE and Eques are now at war i hear xD so GG Eastern Superfriends, since we all know that at least one of those factions is part of a northern superalliance that will now be totally distracted from the bigger picture unless they demonstrate an uncharacteristic ability to let bygones be bygones and declare peace.

Well, if it's just Kalmar and their more reliable friends fighting the fight then it should still be a fight to remember.

I blame Fips 

[Osiris]

Gimmie troops and equipment so i can continue mah war with the fenris!