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Epic fail to small clans
« on: March 11, 2014, 09:32:10 pm »
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Im pretty sure this has already been pointed out but I just wanted to add my 2cents.

If the devs where trying to balance out this strat to help the smaller clans then it is clearly an epic fail. Maybe they wanted to empower the larger clans even more?

At least last strat everyone could afford the plate armys, this strat the longer it go's the more advantage the larger clans will have. By the last month the larger clans will be running around in plate and the small clans will be lucky to have mail.

Anyway thanks devs for guaranteeing a shit ton of one sided battles and wars

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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2014, 09:33:57 pm »
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There really isn't a way to balance strat so that the size of a group playing it is more or less irrelevant.

I guess unless you made each faction have a maximum of 5 playable heroes that could move around the map or something. That'd be pretty shitty.
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2014, 09:56:08 pm »
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I don't want to jump to any conclusions here, but it seems like having more people than the other guy gives you an advantage in just about everything.
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2014, 09:59:14 pm »
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This should be under Realism Discussion.  Next we can discuss the effects of a salary cap on a baseball tea,.
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2014, 10:00:36 pm »
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The circlejerk on EU is quite big, too(Big, as in, EU strat was over before it began because certain diplomatic relations will never end). But i fail to see how a mechanic could actually prevent them from happening. Even if smaller clans would get more out of something, the big clans could just form plenty of small clans that work together to get the max out of their alliances. Also this is the wrong part of the forum for strat talk.

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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2014, 10:03:31 pm »
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2014, 10:21:57 pm »
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Strategus right now is exactly like that except it's the big fishes all grouping up together against a few disorganised small fishes.

The circlejerk on EU is quite big, too(Big, as in, EU strat was over before it began because certain diplomatic relations will never end). But i fail to see how a mechanic could actually prevent them from happening. Even if smaller clans would get more out of something, the big clans could just form plenty of small clans that work together to get the max out of their alliances. Also this is the wrong part of the forum for strat talk.


It's not a fatality, the game just lacks incentives to do anything else.

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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2014, 10:59:37 pm »
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2014, 03:11:20 am »
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^That is a good idea,
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2014, 07:43:13 am »
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Strategus right now is exactly like that except it's the big fishes all grouping up together against a few disorganised small fishes.

Any examples of big fishes grouping up against disorganised small fishes (this Strat)?
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2014, 08:37:54 am »
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Any examples of big fishes grouping up against disorganised small fishes (this Strat)?

Yea, it's called the Freedom Perch vs the Northern Perch.
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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2014, 09:14:53 am »
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Imo, the problem is not that smaller clans are unable to compete, they shouldn't be able to(at least for claiming villages/castles/towns), medieval times size/numbers always mattered. Problem is there is nothing for them to do, there is no incentive to just be in a small group in strategus. They need more stuff they can do other than attack a trader here and there and then not know what to do with their gold.

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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2014, 09:54:48 am »
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They can do lots of things:

Scouts, raid traders and villages, be interceptors and lock down enemies - either sell their services if they are good or just help out and get some stuff for it

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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2014, 10:01:16 am »
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They can do lots of things:

Scouts, raid traders and villages, be interceptors and lock down enemies - either sell their services if they are good or just help out and get some stuff for it

Send a job application to us  :mrgreen:

To what end? What is the goal? Amassing gold? What is that going to get them other than better gear? They need incentive. Big groups get towns, castles, villages, titles, all kinds of notable stuff.

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Re: Epic fail to small clans
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2014, 10:10:45 am »
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To what end? What is the goal? Amassing gold? What is that going to get them other than better gear? They need incentive. Big groups get towns, castles, villages, titles, all kinds of notable stuff.

Ask them, madmanjack, gimest de gyrst, tybalt, boerenlater, lemon, elkska, brigadier and so on - more coming and asking if they can help out - no promises of gold, no nothing. We promise to give what they need if we can in terms of resources. And we will later today transfer the village of Ushkuru, so they can trade freely there and have a safe haven. Torben, will be the one managing it and it will be under the protection of us.

Incentive? Differs I guess, teamplay, ability to kick some big clannuts when these guys work together, back up from a clan, possibility to get info about traders they can raid and so on.

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