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[Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword & Heavy greatsword
« on: March 06, 2014, 07:35:54 pm »
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Something has always bugged me about seeing european-style knights, riding around with the arabian cavalry sword.
So I've attempted to make an alternative more european style of sword.

Just so you're forewarned, I'm pretty bad at texturing :P. (it's all by hand :S)

European cavalry sword

http://p3d.in/elrja
http://p3d.in/vA0o7

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It's currently 105 length, though it can be easily adjusted to other sizes.

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Thoughts/stuff/spam?


EDIT:

New model;

Heavy Greatsword

http://p3d.in/BnVOW

Nordwolf's modified leather version
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96841139/Senni_Heavygreatsword_edited.rar

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« Last Edit: August 25, 2014, 05:57:20 pm by Senni__Ti »

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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 07:55:25 pm »
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The pommel is too flat and has too sharp edges, otherwise I like it.
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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 08:07:44 pm »
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hm,  sexy already!  finetune that shit so we can get it in plox :D
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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2014, 08:52:05 pm »
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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2014, 09:11:35 pm »
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Wow thats really nice Senni, i hope it gets in. +1
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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 09:41:37 pm »
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Your sword looks very nice. At the moment Arabian Cavalry Sword got no competition, so would be great to see new sword for 1h cav.
Comparing your sword to Arabian Cavalry Sword, I think it should be lighter (2.1kg?), have less swing damage (32?) and more stab damage (21?). I also don't understand why devs buffed Arabian Cavalry Sword (+1 speed) in recent patch. I think both swords (yours and Arabian) should have 95 speed. So, imo their stats should look like this:
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Arabian Cavalry Sword
weight: 2.3
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 19 pierce
swing damage: 33 cut
slots: 1
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European Cavalry Sword
weight: 2.1
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 21 pierce
swing damage: 32 cut
slots: 1
I hope this sword will be added, to have more variability in 1h cav weapons :).

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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2014, 09:45:05 pm »
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Those are the stats I was thinking of too (literally :O), but it's up to the balancers :P

Thanks guys
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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2014, 11:51:31 pm »
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Stats are good.

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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 11:58:34 pm »
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What about making it 106 length, 94 speed and 33c ?

Edit: when masterworked
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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 12:03:47 am »
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European Cavalry Sword
weight: 2.1
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 21 pierce
swing damage: 32 cut
slots: 1

This sounds a bit too close to the Nordic champion sword to me, i think it should be more cut oriented for a cavalry weapon

Nordic champion sword
weight:1.8
difficulty:13
Speed:97
Length:102
Thrust:21 pierce
Swing:32 cut
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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 01:20:20 am »
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Yeah 722, it would be heavier, longer and slower Nordic Champion's Sword. In other words, Nordic's version for cav.
I proposed those stats, because of simple elimination.
Having 105 length 1h weapon already gives it amazing reach from horseback, so I don't think we should increase the length even more. It would be ideal to set it's swing damage to 32.5, but i'm affraid we can't be that accurate :(. If you set it's swing damage to 33, it could just replace Arabian. Swing speed isn't that important from horseback (it matters much more when dehorsed), so even if you give it 1 less speed than Arabian, with same swing damage, almost all people might change to new sword. I just feel, giving this sword 33 cut damage on swing will make it the obvious choice for cav, just like Arabian Cavalry Sword is now.
I know 1 swing damage less makes huge difference for 1h cav, but nowadays 1h thrust (even from horseback) isn't that bad, so having 2 thrust damage more should give it some nice bonus. It could even get 3 thrust damage more (up to 22 thrust damage, since it would be 2 speed slower than Nordic).
I think 1 more swing damage or 2-3 thrust damage is valable choice. Maybe slightly favors Arabian for 1h cav, but both weapons would be very good - 105 length is the key here, because atm Arabian is the only 105 length 1h weapon in game.
Anyway, it's just my opinion, and i'm not the balancer. I just hope it will be added to the game in any form. Stats can be tweaked later, if needed :).

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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2014, 01:50:31 am »
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22p might also work, considering paramerion is 23p and 1 speed faster for less length & weight.

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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 02:14:15 am »
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Great work man I hope it gets in. +1  :mrgreen:

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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2014, 05:10:19 am »
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Nice! The pommel could use some work but otherwise great job modeling and texturing it.  :mrgreen:

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Re: [Item/Suggestion] European Cavalry sword
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2014, 05:39:00 am »
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can you make a better, glorified, AMERICAN version too? :mrgreen:
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