Strategus drama Penios

[Osakasa]

Sounds really gay... why this cav guy didn't def flags when they were all captured? There should be timer when all flags are down, team has x min(s) time to get one back otherwise fief/castle is captured

[Corwin]

OMG, one of the funniest posts in a while!

[Armpit_Sweat]

Never played strategus, but riding a sumpter horse alone, for 13 min sounds like a very weak move... Personally, i don't like running away from a fight, i rarely resort to this "tactic" even if i have a ranged weapon.
How annoying it must be to chase a lonely sumpter horse for 13 min On the other hand, if there are no rules regarding this situation - I guess one have to take some ranged weapons into battle, like a hunting crossbow. I don't know how it works in Strategus, so I might sound ignorant.

[Mr.K.]

i wonder how 100 man footarmy can catch a pony? O_o why even try?

The pony was carrying 20 crates, I guess that's the reason he caught him on the map. For some reason crates don't spawn on the actual battle allowing him to abuse the game mechanics and run away. I'm sure Panos would have been happy just taking the crates and letting the enemy run irl...

Clearly not a valid tactic imo.

[BlueKnight]

I'm sorry that somebody was riding swaybacked sumpter. Sounds totally immortal. Lack of teamwork, lack of ranged weapons and lack of horses and lack of tactics made them lose. If it was real battle the horseman would just escape, no big deal for him but here he is locked in a square and his job is to survive till the timer is at 0:00.

Never played strategus, but riding a sumpter horse alone, for 13 min sounds like a very weak move... Personally, i don't like running away from a fight, i rarely resort to this "tactic" even if i have a ranged weapon.
How annoying it must be to chase a lonely sumpter horse for 13 min On the other hand, if there are no rules regarding this situation - I guess one have to take some ranged weapons into battle, like a hunting crossbow. I don't know how it works in Strategus, so I might sound ignorant.

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[Fips]

Lol, why this even has to be discussed. You delayed and got kicked for it, end of story.

[Macropus]

Sorry, missed the fact it was a field battle.

and another example, if we had only 1 guy and he was well armoured and the enemy didn't have weapons and therefore they wouldn't be able to hit him with anything else than fists. Would you call that delaying? Would it be fine or would you kick the armoured guy?

I wouldn't kick him, because in that situation he would kill all the attackers and win the battle.

In this case the attacker didn't have the weapon to overcome our defense which was speed and brain... Panos didn't equip himself with ranged weapons and it's his fault.

Well I can kinda agree that in some conditions the defenders should be able to retreat saving some troops and equipment but also losing a fair amount. But in no way should the defenders win by delaying after their flags are captured.

[serr]

You know, if you survived till the timer is at 0:00 you would still have to kill all attackers to win...

[BlueKnight]

Lol, why this even has to be discussed. You delayed and got kicked for it, end of story.

It wasn't me and how can a defender delay when he can win. Delaying is prolonging battle when you can't win. It was a leggo tactic in this case. We used it that Panos didn't equip himself with ranged weapons, cav or any sort of teamwork...

You know, if you survived till the timer is at 0:00 you would still have to kill all attackers to win...

If the server says that the attacking army is retreating I think that the defenders win no matter what, don't they.

[serr]

It wasn't me and how can a defender delay when he can win. Delaying is prolonging battle when you can't win. It was a leggo tactic in this case. We used it that Panos didn't equip himself with ranged weapons, cav or any sort of teamwork...

But you couldn't win this. Surviving till the end of timer is not win, you would win only if all attackers quitted battle and that is obviously delaying.

If the server says that the attacking army is retreating I think that the defenders win no matter what, don't they

No, they don't. It mean only that attackers stop spawning. They still can kill defenders and win battle.

[Sniger]

even a noob like me could forsee this    if theres no rules about this, why even try attack some pony when i have no proper weapons or tactic to take it out?  its like chess, im not gonna check the king with my queen if the king can just go one step back and avoid the check, then my move is completely waste and frankly retarded

[BlueKnight]

But you couldn't win this. Surviving till the end of timer is not win, you would win only if all attackers quitted battle and that is obviously delaying.

I think the battle would be won by Andswaru but with 0 troops left and that'd be it.

Also after the battle is won by the defenders it's attackers who are delaying

In previous strats attackers were even kicked (like steevee mentioned, lack of ladders aka lack of tools to kill in this case lack of ranged, cav, teamwork)

[Templar_Steevee]

Lol, why this even has to be discussed. You delayed and got kicked for it, end of story.

In strat delaying starts when time runs up

You know, if you survived till the timer is at 0:00 you would still have to kill all attackers to win...

Yes, but he were kicked before time ends.

That was a battle for fun probably to tease Panos (and it works  ), but if an admin is making a bad decision is not good.

[Mr.K.]

That was a battle for fun probably to tease Panos (and it works  ), but if an admin is making a bad decision is not good.

He can't win (-2 sumpter can't bump) so why waste half an hour of everyone's time? Clearly delaying imo and kick was justified. I agree with Osakasa that there should be a timer that starts when attacker captures the flags to avoid this "tactic".

[Miwiw]

Andswaru couldn't win but the other team couldn't win too.

Would you attack a cav on foot - shouldn't the cav rather be free to escape? That'd be fair.

Battle automatically ends because attackers do not have horses nor ranged weapons but the enemy team got a team fully equipped with horses so defender automatically wins. attackers do not lose gear, defender doesn't as well and is free to go.

That is how it should work. The same if a team attacks a castle and got no siege gear, then the defenders should also win.

Maybe trade goods should be left behind though.