Strategus drama Penios

[Sniger]

either case Ands should have his time no matter what. who knows, maybe he would be lucky enuff to bump someone to death and take his weapon or something else, we dont know, because he was kicked by an admin BEFORE time was up. sure you could call DELAY if he was kiting you the entire round, but he didnt, he was kicked before time was up.

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(-2 sumpter can't bump)

didnt knew

[Gurnisson]

Panos is a retard for not buying a single bow, crossbow, throwing weapon or horse. Even if he was stupid enough to don't do that, the guy who ran away for 14 minutes on a sumpter horse used an incredibly gay tactic that shouldn't be able to work.

Do the defenders have to kill every alive attacker if the timer runs out? If so, it's basically not possible to get a result with this ridiculous tactic, which is good, and any kind of delaying like this wouldn't happen again (I hope). If the attackers lose because of it, it would be incredibly silly and should be changed.

[Sniger]

but wait a minute  the weakest horse able to carry a man on its back can surely bump someone if they are naked or wear regular clothes?! i guess this belong to item balance forum

[Jacko]

We are discussing it in IRC at the moment. Should be a precedent set soon enough until we can get something more robust in place.

[Sniger]

in chess, what panos did is called "blunder"move 

[Rebelyell]

if time was not over no one should kinck anyone

[Miwiw]

How is it common sense to let a team win that's not prepared to do shit at all?

[sF_Guardian]

There's a rule to prevent delaying, are you seriously complaining about this?
Besides that it's lameass shit anyway.

[dreadnok]

100 troops will suicide after the fact that they could not catch a peasant on a horse constantly fleeing engangement. Sounds legit. Even if it's not breaking any rules it's gay as fuck and shouldn't be a possible way to win a battle.

Who the fucks fault is that? Why let it go on that long then ban after 13 minutes is an asshole admin

[Nessaj]

P r o j e c t i l e s

They're quite nice in combat, or at least that's what history tells us...

There was once this Roman fella' named Marcus Crassus, yep the one who took out Spartacus, he went on to invade Parthia. However his legions were defeated at Carrhae (modern Harran in Turkey) by a numerically inferior Parthian force. Crassus' legions were mainly infantry men and were not prepared for the type of swift, cavalry-and-arrow attack that the Parthian troops were particularly adept at. The Parthians would get within shooting range, rain a barrage of arrows down upon Crassus's troops, turn, fall back, and charge forth with another attack in the same vein. They were even able to shoot as well backwards as they could forwards, increasing the deadliness of their onslaught. Crassus refused his quaestor Gaius Cassius Longinus's plans to reconstitute the Roman battle line, and remained in the testudo formation thinking that the Parthians would eventually run out of arrows. BUT THEY DIDN'T. Good night everybody!

[Ninja_Khorin]

Shame the Nords lacked projectiles, then. Otherwise it would've been a clear win.

Here's my opinion:

Previously we have kicked defenders if they are not defending their flags or attacking the attackers if they've lost control of their castle or village. I've personally witnessed this happen, where the defenders try and hide simply to delay. Theoretically they can survive and win by time running out. They've always been kicked, even if the attackers had no means of catching them, because if defenders lose the flags, then they've failed at defending.

Same applies for field battles, except you're defending a caravan. This wasn't a horse archer I kicked.

In this case, the defender wasn't defending the objective or killing attackers, ergo he should lose whatever he was defending.

[Nessaj]

Yeah, huge fail on the ARMY COMMANDER to not bring a cudgel at least. Shamefur.

[Thovex]

lmaao

[Andswaru]

imo, its the defenders job to survive a battle and the attackers jobs to win it. If this was 2000 vrs 2000 men we wouldnt even be discussing it. The attackers didnt bring the right tools and the defender would of survived.
 I dont give 2 flying monkeys about the trade goods or anything been undone, its mearly principle given that panos tried twice to get the defender ban kicked then after he was kicked was poll abuse he found a friend to come and kick the defender.

[Wiltzu]

The funny part here is this:

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