Overall Balance Poll : Q1 2014 (VOTE AGAIN, POLL UPDATED)

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

Nerf cav

[722_]

knockdown should be an option

[Gmnotutoo]

Nerf cav

buff katana & wakizashi

[Grumbs]

Oddly enough, this new poll's initial results actually reflect my feelings(Yes, that includes thrusts).

What if you nerfed speed bonus for everyone with thrusts, but found a way to keep 1/2 directional poles decent?

Poles should be stabbing masters when 2/1 directional. Otherwise stabs could do with a nerf across the board.

[Elindor]

Oddly enough, this new poll's initial results actually reflect my feelings(Yes, that includes thrusts).

Tydeus, did you hack my poll and add the Fire magic option?

If not, I'm scared because I didn't add that

[CrazyCracka420]

In all honesty, no one class is overpowered on it's own (IMO).  I think team balance is the main problem, but overall I think balance is fine and has been fine for the last 2+ years. 

Some equipment has been stronger over the years, some classes have been better or worse than they are now, but at no point in the last 2.5'ish years has any class been completely overpowered where nothing can counter it.  Teamwork and tactics have always been able to overcome any obstacle.  Unless the team balance system puts 90% of ranged and 100% of horse ranged on one team and the map is not a counter-strike type map, then you're probably fucked and should suicide rush to get the map over with.   

People are too quick to blame the enemy for their death, instead of taking responsibility for their actions.  It's easier on your ego if you can blame a mechanic, or another class being the problem when you die.  Sure things could always be better, but the problem with balance is that it can easily be overdone.  You hit something with a nerf, and then something else rises up out of the ashes and becomes stronger.  Oops, instead of fixing the original nerf, you better nerf the new thing that became strong.   

In conclusion:  "Nerf paper, scissors are fine, sincerely, rock." 

[Macbeth3]

To bad only a vocal Minority comes to the forums. Myself I find things rather balanced if you'd compare it to 3 years ago.

Then again, everyone on here is entitled to their own opinions. Most people will come here and select their class as up and their counters are op.
Do i blame these people? No. It's human nature. If people would nerf my preferred playstyle to hell, I would still play it because I've been doing so for over 20 gens. No nerf or buff is going to make me switch. Decrease my damage by 30%, I would not care. I would still be having fun and do what I do best... Wich is beeing a cat!

(Buff cat plz)
*Meow* :3

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[Grumbs]

^ xbow with shield and 1 hand.

[Prpavi]

To bad only a vocal Minority comes to the forums. Myself I find things rather balanced if you'd compare it to 3 years ago.

you use a xbow and only stab with a 1h sword , look at the results top of the page and there is your answer why you think things are "rather balanced" 

[Macbeth3]

you use a xbow and only stab with a 1h sword , look at the results top of the page and there is your answer why you think things are "rather balanced" 

And You're a Horse-Archer :3
Does my class have anything to do with the statement that I provided? That 3 years ago, it was tons worse?

[Grumbs]

The devs have always had a strange hard on for xbows. It took them how long to think about not letting them use a 2 hander too? To add a bit of weight?

Then they buff the crap out of 1 handers to compensate and make a load of great 0 slot 1 handers and we are back at square one. Nothing has really changed

[Strudog]

I would like to see HA go back to the way it was, before it got buffed, was much more rewarding skilful back then

[Phew]

cRPG has fallen into the rut that nearly all online games fall into where the endless shouting about balance drowns out what really matters, which is making sure the game is fun. If ranged gets nerfed, then everyone complaining about ranged will just get replaced by people complaining about the new wave of agility polearmers or whatever else is free to run around without fear of being killed by projectiles. The overall level of complaints will always be constant, all the devs can do is shift to focus of the complaints from one class to another. Two years ago, the "OP" classes were the strength greatsworder and lancer cav, 1h was a joke, and mounted ranged was a novelty. Nerfs and buffs were doled out accordingly, and now we complain about different classes, but the overall amount of complaining stayed the same.

If we instead focus on requesting improvements to the reward system, game modes, and team balance, then there is a much better chance of the game actually getting funner than if we just focus on shifting the overpowered mantle from one class to another.

[Elindor]

If we instead focus on requesting improvements to the reward system, game modes, and team balance, then there is a much better chance of the game actually getting funner than if we just focus on shifting the overpowered mantle from one class to another.

Despite having created this poll, I do agree Phew...to me the biggest things are the TEAM BALANCER and game modes, as well as exp/rewards system.  Hence why I added those options to the poll, and they are getting a lot of votes.

The terrible team balancer is (I think) largely to blame for NA Siege's demise.
That and siege just needs to be replaced by TDM imho.

I wanted to get a sense of where the population was on these balance issues though as well, if nothing else it might help the item balancers a bit.

So far the things the population seems to think are that:

- Stabs from all weapons are OP
- Ranged Cav is OP
- Xbow is OP
- Throwing is OP
- Team Balancer is broken...
- Game modes need work
- EXP system needs work
- and that fire magic is OP...please tell me an admin added this cause I did not add this option 

[Sauce]

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