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[vipere]

The only problem i have with ranged on Eu (on both battle and siege ) is that they are really retarded, only few of them are playing nicely, in Eu1 they are just chasing kills and don't help the team at all and in Eu2, on defender team, it's fine because we only need 6 or 7 players to carry the team, the rest is just fooling around, but attacking a castle with an archerclanstack is not fun at all, you have no chance to win because a ranged player can't take a flag, and they are not smart enough to take their melee weapon and charge with the few melee players of the team.

I don't understand why this class is that attractive, we got an amazing melee gameplay, but shooting peoples in this game is like in any other game.

Sorry for english

[Grumbs]

Nerfing damage would be good. But also missile speed for xbows I think and increase their weight/repair costs

HA/HX is a tricky one to balance. The problem with this class is how passive they are with few viable counters and nerfing foot ranged might see a spike in HA/HX. As long as the accuracy from horseback is really bad they might need to get close to melee range, that could be the answer. Maybe make all current xbows/bows not usable on horse. Then have a really crappy bow/xbow that is usable on horse

[Tzar]

Remove pierce on bodkin arrows.

Problem solved, its what started the range fest in the first place. 

[LordBerenger]

Remove pierce on bodkin arrows.

Problem solved, its what started the range fest in the first place. 

Played recently and i've seen very few archers use bodkins. They use mostly tatar and barbed arrows from what i saw most of the time.

[Thorondor]

I don't understand why this class is that attractive, we got an amazing melee gameplay, but shooting peoples in this game is like in any other game.

cuz they're bad players and they dont know how to block.but the thing is, they're not good at archery either  ban all the archers who can't make it in the 15 on the scoarboard(after the last patch its not hard ). that'll solve the annoying ranged numbers

[Jack1]

As johemmoth said in an earlier post that I can't find:

if ranged stagger gets made so it only happenens when 25% damage or more happens

This would be the best thing to implement IMO, the most annoying part of ranged is when one shoots you so that you can't defend yourself for a second and take free shots.

I've also been paying attention lately and noticed that most of the damage I take is only when I get shot THEN get hit by a melee enemy.

Edit: also how about limiting bows usable on horse back's accuracy and slowing draw speed on longbows/rus bows/ bows?

[BlueKnight]

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I was about to quit anyay, so I went suicidal-reporter to the open just to take this screenie.

With 1920x1080 on my screen and after a thorough examination I counted 10 obvious horse-ranged and 2 more that look like horse ranged guys but I'm not sure if they are. Those 2 guys that were the closest to me in this picture kept pew-pewing me while I was leaving.

Such horse-ranged combo happens very rarely but when it does, it's gay++...

It was on the 12th of January.

[Templar_Steevee]

I already suggested to do one simple thing in others thread.

ATM HA have insane mobility because of using horse and same shooting speed as foot ranged.
I suggest to nerf a bit bows speed rating while using on horseback. It have been done to HX, so why not to HA?
Being HA have only benifits of mobility compared to foot archers. I thing that taking arrow from quiver, putting it on string, draw and aim is harder while sitting on riding horse than on foot...

[Tydeus]

The biggest issue with horse ranged, is that any ranged character does more damage atop a horse when it's moving and he's shooting forward, than when he's grounded. The speed bonus issue will probably be addressed though.

[NejStark]

I already suggested to do one simple thing in others thread.

ATM HA have insane mobility because of using horse and same shooting speed as foot ranged.
I suggest to nerf a bit bows speed rating while using on horseback. It have been done to HX, so why not to HA?
Being HA have only benifits of mobility compared to foot archers. I thing that taking arrow from quiver, putting it on string, draw and aim is harder while sitting on riding horse than on foot...

Horse archers irl can shoot quite fast

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[Templar_Steevee]

Horse archers irl can shoot quite fast

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7minutes 25 seconds if it doesnt link properly

Ok but on this video you can see that:
1. They are riding slow in straight line
2. They are holding few arrows in their hand, not taking them from quiver

I'm sure that if they will thy to shoot with conditions we have in c-rpg their shooting speed will decrease in drastic way  :mrgreen:

[NejStark]

Yeah I agree, also they ride with their arrows in left hand rather than quiver. Imagine holding 20 arrows in your bow hand...
I was just using it to illustrate that HA can fire fairly quickly.

[bavvoz]

Less accurate than i would have thought with those conditions i have to say

[Clockworkkiller]

Everyone complains how ranged is the most evil of evil. Yet completely ignores the agi whores

[BlueKnight]

Everyone complains how ranged is the most evil of evil. Yet completely ignores the agi whores

Ranged kill them before we even meet them in battle.

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jk, actually most of EU players have at least 18agi so it's not a big issue here.