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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3015 on: April 22, 2014, 11:21:34 am »
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Yes, he said that.
So, Ivani4, how would you translate "жестко насиловать"? :)
Сер, Христос Воскрес!  Ты совсем там уже обьевропился? Зачем прикидываешься что не понимаешь о чём он говорит? Ты не знаешь манеру общения Жириновского? Или делаешь вид что понимаешь в русском только слова, а не смысл? Сны, незалежный ты наш,  на какой мове смотришь? На суржике? Или на западенском? Фильтруй высказывания.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3016 on: April 22, 2014, 11:22:11 am »
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Ooo, about appeared genius of historical Sciences, Oberyn! You have a possibility and wish to tell me about my country? Thank you! The history of our country is so little coverage here. You are very generous. Tell us more about the Georgian Stalin. Georgians have not been deported? Probably why we punished them in South Ossetia? Historical justice. However, we still have to send Saakashvili to permanent residence in Magadan.
Funny thing is - there ARE things to tell you about, which you actually DON'T read in your CCCP era\putler influenced history books. There was this book for example about red army "methods" during WWII and how they used to win battle after battly by overheating the muzzles of german mashineguns... but thats a long story.
Another thing is - this is where wild speculations about "true history" start, so lets leave it at that.

As to Stalin - taking an example and proving a rule by it is what gets you 0 in math exams. Good luck with your "logic".

Сер, Христос Воскрес!  Ты совсем там уже обьевропился? Зачем прикидываешься что не понимаешь о чём он говорит? Ты не знаешь манеру общения Жириновского? Или делаешь вид что понимаешь в русском только слова, а не смысл? Сны, незалежный ты наш,  на какой мове смотришь? На суржике? Или на западенском? Фильтруй высказывания.
Just because he has a moronic style of communications he is in no way to be excused for shit talking like this. Although... I frankly cant pick between "Only in russia(c)" or "In putlers russia - politicians shit talk their electorate, to better stress and pound in low self esteem of a common, non ruling class, citizen.". Which would be better?

Also - anyone care to explain, how russian "news agencies" managed to prepare and air the latest "ultranationalists atack eastern Ukraine heroes" an hour earlier, than the attack actually happened?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3017 on: April 22, 2014, 11:28:11 am »
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Also - anyone care to explain, how russian "news agencies" managed to prepare and air the latest "ultranationalists atack eastern Ukraine heroes" an hour earlier, than the attack actually happened?
1 - Putin personally inform them
2- ultranationalists actually employees russian "news agencies" and make news for them
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3018 on: April 22, 2014, 11:29:16 am »
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There was this book for example about red army "methods" during WWII and how they used to win battle after battly by overheating the muzzles of german mashineguns... but thats a long story.

The whole rush forward with no weapons to get mowed down thing was only using penal batallions. Sure, there were a bunch of em, and often complete innocents would up there, but it's not like they sacrificed soldiers pointlessly. It is people they would have executed/deported to a wasteland in any case, if there wasn't a war going on. It is a popular meme (it even showed up in starting scene of Enemy at the Gates, the hollywood Stalingrad movie) but it's mostly Cold War propaganda.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3019 on: April 22, 2014, 11:35:15 am »
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Ooo, about appeared genius of historical Sciences, Oberyn! You have a possibility and wish to tell me about my country? Thank you! The history of our country is so little coverage here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historiography_in_the_Soviet_Union

I wonder what the Russian page says.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3020 on: April 22, 2014, 11:54:19 am »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historiography_in_the_Soviet_Union

I wonder what the Russian page says.
Just comparing the length of the text gives a first impression? Maybe? :)

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When west germany annexed east germany, nobody moved a finger too.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3021 on: April 22, 2014, 11:57:14 am »
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Just comparing the length of the text gives a first impression? Maybe? :)

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fail, that's bulgarian

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3022 on: April 22, 2014, 12:00:41 pm »
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Well, how I am supposed to know. I clicked the stuff that looked like the most promising Russian to me :D

EDIT: Oww, it actually says Bulgarian on the mouse-over :(
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3023 on: April 22, 2014, 12:02:31 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3024 on: April 22, 2014, 01:28:17 pm »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historiography_in_the_Soviet_Union

I wonder what the Russian page says.

You do know that Wikipedia has editors for every language and there is no possibility that something fishy stays on wiki for longer than week? You can always translate russian page to check it out.

It is quite disgusting that you're using Wikipedia to make a claim how everything "russian" is controled by their government.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3025 on: April 22, 2014, 01:30:24 pm »
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Zhirinovsky is an idiot, he was an idiot twenty years ago, and in the meantime he managed to become even bigger idiot. I can't believe he is still in politics. For what he did and say at that press conference he should be arrested.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3026 on: April 22, 2014, 01:31:05 pm »
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Just because he has a moronic style of communications he is in no way to be excused for shit talking like this. Although... I frankly cant pick between "Only in russia(c)" or "In putlers russia - politicians shit talk their electorate, to better stress and pound in low self esteem of a common, non ruling class, citizen.". Which would be better?

It's hilarious to me seing some people actually PROUD that their elites are untouchable. Yes, in the west politicians at the very least pretend to respect journalists, because they are supposed to be held accountable to their constituents. In Russia of course they know journalists are nothing more than tools to be used and discarded when convenient, so they treat them like worthless shits. It's a fucking farce and the vast majority of "journalists" are nothing more than shills. All the retarded conspiracy theories about complete authoritarian government control and manipulation in the West are infinitely more applicable to Russia, but morons gonna moron.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3027 on: April 22, 2014, 01:32:43 pm »
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You do know that Wikipedia has editors for every language and there is no possibility that something fishy stays on wiki for longer than week? You can always translate russian page to check it out.

It is quite disgusting that you're using Wikipedia to make a claim how everything "russian" is controled by their government.

I agree, there's mountains of evidence for authoritarian control of the media, no need to make shit up.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3028 on: April 22, 2014, 01:35:51 pm »
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Сер, Христос Воскрес!  Ты совсем там уже обьевропился? Зачем прикидываешься что не понимаешь о чём он говорит? Ты не знаешь манеру общения Жириновского? Или делаешь вид что понимаешь в русском только слова, а не смысл? Сны, незалежный ты наш,  на какой мове смотришь? На суржике? Или на западенском? Фильтруй высказывания.

Иваныч, ты настолько закономерно и прямолинейно мыслишь, что с тобой скучно спорить. В твоих словах нет уважения к "братскому народу" или как там у вас в России сейчас модно говорить? Я не представляю, о какой дружбе идёт речь, когда ты даже в своей предвзятости язык называешь "западенским". Как оказалось, не так страшны европейские геи, как кремлёвские пидорасы. Выгораживать Жириновского и прощать ему его слова за т.н. "манеру речи" - это потакание той мерзости и клоуну, коими Жириновский и является. Он сказал, что сказал и должен нести ответственность за свои слова. Но он её не понесёт, ведь это Российская Федерация - колыбель правосудия, честности, равенства и гласности. Я общаюсь на русском, сны тоже вижу на русском, часто говорю на английском и иногда даже думаю на английском, разве это делает меня британцем? Или я должен преклоняться перед американцами или другими нациями, которые говорят на английском? Родной язык для меня всё равно украинский, по многим причинам. Но это не умаляет и ни в коей мере не ухудшает моё отношение к русскому языку. Тем более, что к моему разочарованию выяснилось, что я им владею лучше, чем принимающие участие в дискуссии граждане Российской Федерации. Ты думаешь, что люди сидят и молятся на Турчинова или Яценюка? Восхваляют их легитимность, законность и конституционность? Это всё чепуха и Россия не должна совать свой нос не в своё дело. Оправдывать аннексию Крыма какими-то законами? Это абсурд, который очевиден. Каждый раз, когда россияне начинают убеждать граждан Украины, что в России лучше, чем в Европе, я ловлю себя на мысли, что они пытаются убедить в этом сами себя. Если не получается, то в ход идут "гейропейцы, фашисты и братство славянских народов", вот и получится, как с казахами. В рамках таможенного союза они братья казахи, а в рамках жизни они "чурки, понаехавшие". Не стоит это братство и яйца выеденного.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #3029 on: April 22, 2014, 01:36:39 pm »
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Zhirinovsky is an idiot, he was an idiot twenty years ago, and in the meantime he managed to become even bigger idiot. I can't believe he is still in politics. For what he did and say at that press conference he should be arrested.

No, he should be free to be a complete raging retard to anyone he wishes. Arrested for that, really? Maybe you think he should take a vaction to Siberia as well? That he is still a politician, and a relatively popular one at that, is a symptom of Russia's current zeitgeist, not a cause.
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