Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Vovka]

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Actually - I think they already did loose their "friendly" nation status. Apart from relative minority of die-hard-russian-nationalists - I understand that MOST Ukranians do not appreciate their "friends" back stabing them during their hardest hour. At least everyone is wearing their true faces now...

The most fucked-up thing is, that without escalating the armed conflict and inviting bloodshed - there is quite little Ukraine or anyone else can do to "on site" if one does not get his boots in the dirt. And I don't see that happening.

Dave - is a choice "Crimea or EU/Westernization" a real one or just a child of my brainwashed mind? Where would you stand if such a choice was presented?

Ukraine for EU is 42 millions consumers and pipe from Russsia
 Ukrain for Russia is 42 millions consumers and pipe to EU
 For Nato its place for antimissile defense

And no one  from them dont cares if  Ukrainians frendly nations or not  also if you play DotA you would know that young Ukrainians do not like Russia)


I think it's because, in the 9th century Ukrainians, forced Russian use boots instead of bast shoe
   
, and now we do not want give  them back theirs Siberia ((

[Kuujis]

Ukraine for EU is 42 millions consumers and pipe from Russsia
 Ukrain for Russia is 42 millions consumers and pipe to EU
 For Nato its place for antimissile defense

And no one  from them dont cares if  Ukrainians frendly nations or not 

Nice of you never noticing, that its actually about what UKRAINE wants, not EU or your fucked up chocolate chip cookie country 

[Panos_]

Nice of you never noticing, that its actually about what UKRAINE wants, not EU or your fucked up chocolate chip cookie country 

Funny how a German calls others nazees 

[Vovka]

Nice of you never noticing, that its actually about what UKRAINE wants, not EU or your fucked up chocolate chip cookie country 

oh i forgot dat 1
no one cares wat Ukraine wants 

[DaveUKR]

Actually - I think they already did loose their "friendly" nation status. Apart from relative minority of die-hard-russian-nationalists - I understand that MOST Ukranians do not appreciate their "friends" back stabing them during their hardest hour. At least everyone is wearing their true faces now...

The most fucked-up thing is, that without escalating the armed conflict and inviting bloodshed - there is quite little Ukraine or anyone else can do to "on site" if one does not get his boots in the dirt. And I don't see that happening.

Dave - is a choice "Crimea or EU/Westernization" a real one or just a child of my brainwashed mind? Where would you stand if such a choice was presented?

There is a lot of provocation here and there especially in eastern Ukraine. Mostly people speculate on things such as Russian language (the vast majority speaks Russian on the east): they try to persuade people that Nаzis forbid people to speak Russian (the thing is that for all the years of independence of Ukraine neither my nor anyone's else rights to speak any language they want were not violated), that Russia is a big brother that will make our country a successful and wealthy region as a part of Russia and so on. One thing is that they never proved their words, only speculated on feelings of people.

If I'd said that there are no people who support Russian Federation and want to become a part of it - I would lie, there is a certain amount of people that want to become a part of it but it's just nothing. For example, from like first 100 of people whom I know and can recall from my mind only like 1 or 2 would like that scenario. If you lived in Ukraine you would understand that people somewhat waited for such actions from Russia. Every time when we have some kind of problems in our economy or with finances or with whatever else - Russia starts an economic war against Ukraine: I can't even count how many times they used to forbid importing Ukrainian products for multiple ridiculous reasons.

[Kuujis]

Funny how a German calls others nazees 

Except Ich kann nich Deutch sprachen. I'm from obscure baltic state of Litauen

And for the record - media of chocolate chip country identified Lt as a place where Ukrainian nationalist fighter were trained and prepared for extremism... tru story brah... </irony>

[bredeus]

Somehow I don't belive in negotiations with Putin.
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[Vovka]

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Somehow I don't belive in negotiations with Putin.
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cos u are brainwashed kid !!! 

[Oberyn]

Ukraine for EU is 42 millions consumers and pipe from Russsia
 Ukrain for Russia is 42 millions consumers and pipe to EU
 For Nato its place for antimissile defense

And no one  from them dont cares if  Ukrainians frendly nations or not  also if you play DotA you would know that young Ukrainians do not like Russia)


I think it's because, in the 9th century Ukrainians, forced Russian use boots instead of bast shoe
   
, and now we do not want give  them back theirs Siberia ((

Holodomor, forced deportations to Siberia and influx of russian immigrants don't real, only feels. Notice all these things happened in the 20th century.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the country that militarily invaded half of their territory is probably not their friend. You have to be some special kind of retard to equivocate the EU with Russia in this situation. Or some brainwashed moron.

[Vovka]

Russian troops have always been in the Crimea, certainly not as much but they were.
Crimea is not important for what reasons do not support the new government, the new government needed Crimea. Suppose Russia did not intervene, then the common people of the Crimea with hunting rifles will fight with maydansbrotherhood with firearms. Many corpses - less taxes, Russia risks losing its investment and fleet. (china way, too), because the new Government may refuse to pay debts and fulfill agreements with criminal president.

[Xant]

wat, Vovka.

[Vovka]

wat, Vovka.

Black Sea Fleet

[[ptx]]

:lol:

[Kuujis]

Russian troops have always been in the Crimea, certainly not as much but they were.
Crimea is not important for what reasons do not support the new government, the new government needed Crimea. Suppose Russia did not intervene, then the common people of the Crimea with hunting rifles will fight with maydansbrotherhood with firearms. Many corpses - less taxes, Russia risks losing its investment and fleet. (china way, too), because the new Government may refuse to pay debts and fulfill agreements with criminal president.

Omaifakingad... you seriously believe this shit?  Vodka much?

Maybe you would like to visit Ukrainian nationalist fighters training grounds in Lithuania?

[serr]

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Jusy to clarify, no idea if it is true or fake, but it is not Ukraine. It's about some past conflicts.