Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Kafein]

So these people have went against human nature itself since time immemorial?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_conflict

:O

I'm fully aware of that, it's just your last point which seems (again, to the best of our knowledge) fulfilled by Basque.

"Abberations" like basque only survived because of geography. Like kurdish and other isolated minorities that are identified primarily with mountainous or hilly territory, or other isolated types of terrain (deserts, out of the way insular, etc) . They weren't always, of course, that's just where the remnants eventually ended up, because the territory was easier to defend or just not worth conquering at all, as the rest of their people were displaced or assimilated.

Actually it never happened any other way. In basically every region of the world, today's territorial minorities were dominant and got invaded by another ethnic which became dominant. It doesn't make sense for populations to spread otherwise. Invaders invade for a reason. Usually because they were stronger and more aggressive. So they tend to settle everywhere and occasionally leave some bits to the natives, taking the productive lands for themselves.

[Xant]

I'm fully aware of that, it's just your last point which seems (again, to the best of our knowledge) fulfilled by Basque.

Nope.

[Oberyn]

I'm fully aware of that, it's just your last point which seems (again, to the best of our knowledge) fulfilled by Basque.

Actually it never happened any other way. In basically every region of the world, today's territorial minorities were dominant and got invaded by another ethnic which became dominant. It doesn't make sense for populations to spread otherwise. Invaders invade for a reason. Usually because they were stronger and more aggressive. So they tend to settle everywhere and occasionally leave some bits to the natives, taking the productive lands for themselves.

So you're saying the basques sprang from the Pyrenees fully formed? Recorded history stretches back only a few thousand years, even less in Europe. We are forced to rely largely on archeology and conjecture beyond. Yet we know the continent has been populated much longer than that. You don't think it plausible that maybe the ancestors of the basques were perhaps part of one of the many overlapping waves of migration over thousands of years? Fuck, if you really wanna go far back I could just make the point that as homo sapiens their ancestors were obviously conquering migrants that displaced/genocided/absorbed the neanderthals.

[Xant]

I mean, look at where the Basques are located. There isn't even any point arguing it. If you wanted to argue about it, the only ones where it'd even make sense would be for people like Inuits or something (because nobody else wants to live there) and even then it'd be massively naïve.

[krrhmXPRNC]

Ukrainians living on the territory of modern Ukraine for the past 20,000 years

No Vovka you are wrong. Look at the modern ukranian history books
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

They have lived there for 140000 years
Another ukranian historian says they live there for 1000000 years
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

So imho ukranians are:

(click to show/hide)

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

[DaveUKR]

No Vovka you are wrong. Look at the modern ukranian history books
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

They have lived there for 140000 years
Another ukranian historian says they live there for 1000000 years
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

So imho ukranians are:

(click to show/hide)

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

I'm not sure if trolling or just stupid. Can you even read what's written there?
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

[krrhmXPRNC]

I'm not sure if trolling or just stupid. Can you even read what's written there?
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Trolling and I can't read

[Kuujis]

Trolling and I can't read

Another Vovka...

[krrhmXPRNC]

https://youtu.be/NRlU-E5sYXE
Comments please

[Xant]

https://youtu.be/NRlU-E5sYXE
Comments please

?

[krrhmXPRNC]

?

??
Ukranian girl shooting at the village, will she be punished anyhow?

[DaveUKR]

??
Ukranian girl shooting at the village, will she be punished anyhow?

For separatists hiding in civilian houses? The majority of such small villages are empty anyway, not even separatists are there.

[krrhmXPRNC]

For separatists hiding in civilian houses? The majority of such small villages are empty anyway, not even separatists are there.

If so then OK, but IMHO shooting at building not good anyways

[Mala]

https://youtu.be/NRlU-E5sYXE
Comments please

needs more allahu akbar.

[Kuujis]

??
Ukranian girl shooting at the village, will she be punished anyhow?

Nice veiled attempt at "being objective" at first, now you look proper!

Please comment!