Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Vovka]

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[DaveUKR]

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Do you really post it here? He went to occupy the territory of the other country, should I show my compassion to him? Just another example of "Ukrainian locals" fighting for Novorossia. The place where he lived his whole life is thousands of kilometers away from Donetsk, yet he still comes here with a gun to fight against "nаzis", sure.

[Vovka]

Do you really post it here? He went to occupy the territory of the other country, should I show my compassion to him? Just another example of "Ukrainian locals" fighting for Novorossia. The place where he lived his whole life is thousands of kilometers away from Donetsk, yet he still comes here with a gun to fight against "nаzis", sure.

No, but can you can keep telling us such a great officer you are and your vision of the situation from the sofa for 500km from the scene.
I just showed videos that are Buryat on the photo does exist and that atleast part of his story about Kabzon not fake ^^

[Kuujis]

Just to keep this in "Vovka" style of "funny".

[DaveUKR]

No, but can you can keep telling us such a great officer you are and your vision of the situation from the sofa for 500km from the scene.
I just showed videos that are Buryat on the photo does exist and that atleast part of his story about Kabzon not fake ^^

I'm a surgeon and I've seen more wounded soldiers than you saw people in your life. Taking part in a war is not only shooting with a gun, especially in this one.

[Oberyn]

Predictably, the conspiracy theory that this is a devious plan by the west to turn Nemtsov into a martyr is extremely popular in russian media. I'm still sticking to the thought that this was a random actor, or at least unafiliated with the russian government. Maybe even trying to ingratiate themselves to them. Putin doesn't gain from this, the idea that the "election" could ever go against him in the first place is laughable. Nemstov is indeed more of a threat to him dead than he was alive. 

[DaveUKR]

Predictably, the conspiracy theory that this is a devious plan by the west to turn Nemtsov into a martyr is extremely popular in russian media. I'm still sticking to the thought that this was a random actor, or at least unafiliated with the russian government. Maybe even trying to ingratiate themselves to them. Putin doesn't gain from this, the idea that the "election" could ever go against him in the first place is laughable. Nemstov is indeed more of a threat to him dead than he was alive.

I agree, the only reason for Putin to kill Nemtsov could be personal hatred. Nemtsov called Putin insane (using bad words) a lot during last year. Also Nemtsov claimed that he had some crazy proofs about Russia invading Ukraine. What I can say clearly is that Nemtsov wasn't killed because he was a political rival for the Putin.

[Oberyn]

Oh and the rest of Western Europe that Stalin didn't swallow had no interest in supporting NATO hmmm?  What ever the reason that NATO was sustained it allowed Euro countries to spend most of their GDP building their little socialist, cradle to grave, nanny state utopias without having to spend much on defense or without having been taken over by the USSR.  So I know it hurts your pride but Europe could not have or would not have taken care of itself without the sacrifice and the burden undertaken by the US.  Of course NATO was and is in America's interest.  Why would she support NATO if it was not?

Hmmm, so it was a sacrifice and burden, yet undertaken solely because they were directly in America's interest? The words "sacrifice" and "burden" don't mean what you seem to think they do. Undertaking logical steps to reinforce your own position is 100% realpolitiks, but I know emotional red white and blue crying bald eagle bullshit is pretty much the only way the vast majority of your countrymen can relate to anything historical or political. Gotta inject that dose of righteous delusion.

[Oberyn]

I agree, the only reason for Putin to kill Nemtsov could be personal hatred. Nemtsov called Putin insane (using bad words) a lot during last year. Also Nemtsov claimed that he had some crazy proofs about Russia invading Ukraine. What I can say clearly is that Nemtsov wasn't killed because he was a political rival for the Putin.

Meh, what earth-shattering proof does anyone need anymore? Is there anyone that seriously still believes there is no russian involvement in the separatist forces?

[Thomek]

Putin knows that russians love wild conspiracies, and therefore he knows that he most likely wouldn't have to take the blame. In Russia.

To his advantage, this probably will silence some of the internal critical voices, and further polarize the national political climate, making it less and less sensible, and more and more extreme.

Internationally this looks really bad of course, but it seems he gave up on looking good internationally a long time ago.

[Molly]

Meh, what earth-shattering proof does anyone need anymore? Is there anyone that seriously still believes there is no russian involvement in the separatist forces?

Tovi, Nicko...

[Kuujis]

Tovi, Nicko...

Don't forget Tovi's kids, who unfortunately will be indoctrinated. Ugly truth is - I hope he is not vaccinating them...

[Xant]

Putin definitely gains from Nemtsov's murder. He just showed anyone opposing him that he's not afraid of having them just blatantly gunned down. Meanwhile in Russia and Tovi's house, it was a CIA conspiracy.

[lombardsoup]

So Putin had a political opponent assassinated, and nobody is standing up to him.  Its the 70's-80's all over again.

Don't forget Tovi's kids, who unfortunately will be indoctrinated. Ugly truth is - I hope he is not vaccinating them...

A guy like that has kids?  Is there a social services equivalent where he's from?  Needs to lose custody tbh.

[Kuujis]

This is some nice documentary by Vice, even if first part without the second sounds a bit watered down.
https://news.vice.com/video/killed-in-unknown-circumstances-russias-ghost-army-in-ukraine-part-1 (links inside point to Part 2)