Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Kuujis]

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And these guys are going to build a railway to Magadan. Experts say that even for a salary of$1000, there will be many manifestations of enthusiasm on the basis of love for Russia. The project will be several times cheaper. That will allow the budget RF to save sufficient funds for the construction/repair of Donetsk, Lugansk and other cities.

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Just to doublecheck - you would be one of the idiots to who Lavrov sounded completely ok and true, when he "saw no humiliation in the parading of Ukraine captives" during the Ukraine's day of independence, right?

[Butan]

Age old enemy? The RF isn't willing to negotiate a sortie de crise at all anyway. And even if it did, all evidence suggest the terms would not be respected by the RF.

Spoken like a true western warrior

[Turkhammer]

Spoken like a true western warrior

Oh you mean he tells the truth 90% of the time versus 5% for Putin and company?  Very insightful of you.

[DaveUKR]

We'll see and find out in a few days I guess. Maybe it is a good idea for Dave and Serr to start learning the lyrics of the Russian national anthem

Nah. If I manage to survive this conflict and it gets an undesirable ending for me then I'll just do my best leaving my home for a better place to live (I like Ireland and Germany). If I get mobilized (I still didn't, means that they don't really lack officers there) - I will not hide, but let's be honest: I'm not going to take part in a guerilla war and I don't wanna be "an hero" commando. If my country loses - I will not be ashamed to death, I'll deal with it. And yes, my country is Ukraine, even though I'm Russian and was born in USSR.

PS. Ivani4 can suck my dick.
PPS. He actually can't because he sucks a dick of a bald KGB midget but who cares, I'm looking forward to read "gayropean junta banderist fаscist" comments.

 

[Vovka]

PS. Ivani4 can suck my dick.
PPS. He actually can't because he sucks a dick of a bald KGB midget but who cares, I'm looking forward to read "gayropean junta banderist fаscist" comments.

you're talking about  dick sucking as if it were something bad, you're a homophobe? ((

[Tovi]

Last military operations :

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Just a question of time before Mariupol falls.
Stukalova Balka has fallen to the hands of Novorossia.
Rodakovo is taken by Kiev forces.
Komosomolsk is under Ukraine attack, but offensive units will fall in a new "cauldron" (the blue bubble on the left, on the map). I think they tried to help the first cauldron (the right blue bubble), but they fall themselves in a trap.


Résumé : Ukraine army loose positions in the south + hard fights around Lugansk in the north.

[Butan]

you're talking about  dick sucking as if it were something bad, you're a homophobe? ((

The plot thickens.

[Tovi]

Nah. If I manage to survive this conflict and it gets an undesirable ending for me then I'll just do my best leaving my home for a better place to live (I like Ireland and Germany). If I get mobilized (I still didn't, means that they don't really lack officers there) - I will not hide, but let's be honest: I'm not going to take part in a guerilla war and I don't wanna be "an hero" commando. If my country loses - I will not be ashamed to death, I'll deal with it. And yes, my country is Ukraine, even though I'm Russian and was born in USSR.

PS. Ivani4 can suck my dick.
PPS. He actually can't because he sucks a dick of a bald KGB midget but who cares, I'm looking forward to read "gayropean junta banderist fаscist" comments.

Dave, do you have the opportunity to hear them ?

[Thomek]

So the true faces appear. This was never about justice or truth. We knew RF was lying, and you knew it probably even better. (Still you defend Putin's actions)

People in here honestly feel it's right and good that Russia serves herself pieces of Ukraine.

Can you tell my WHY this is ok with you? Vovka, Tovi, Butan?

...That reaction when asked about RF regular units:

They are not very good liars.

[Tovi]

Because people may have the right to choose independance or not. Like in Tchecoslovakia, or in Scotland soon. If they want to leave, let them go, don't try to kill them and call them "terrorist".

If the same people live in 2 differents countries, like east and west germany, they have the right to join if they choose this way.

It seems pretty much more reasonable than making war to maintain artificial borders.

[Lt_Anders]

Because people may have the right to choose independance or not. Like in Tchecoslovakia, or in Scotland soon. If they want to leave, let them go, don't try to kill them and call them "terrorist".

If the same people live in 2 differents countries, like east and west germany, they have the right to join if they choose this way.

It seems pretty much more reasonable than making war to maintain artificial borders.

But Russia started it First by "Annexing" Crimea and taking it's military bases with it. Totally not a "we support Russia" move and totally a "Power Projection" move.

[Kuujis]

Because people may have the right to choose independance or not. Like in Tchecoslovakia, or in Scotland soon. If they want to leave, let them go, don't try to kill them and call them "terrorist".

If the same people live in 2 differents countries, like east and west germany, they have the right to join if they choose this way.

It seems pretty much more reasonable than making war to maintain artificial borders.

But you DO understand, that only convulated russian media has the numbers, where a majority wants to leave? Most of the pools before the whole BS russia caused said, that a MINORITY wanted to leave, even in those regions. So your argument is moot. What now?

[DaveUKR]

Because people may have the right to choose independance or not.

What an irony. Ukraine wants to get independent from Russia and Russia doesn't let it. Why don't you see it like that?
Speaking about Russia and rights is a mauvais ton. Once again, hello Chechnya.

If the same people live in 2 differents countries, like east and west germany, they have the right to join if they choose this way.

[Tibe]

Because people may have the right to choose independance or not. Like in Tchecoslovakia, or in Scotland soon. If they want to leave, let them go, don't try to kill them and call them "terrorist".

It seems pretty much more reasonable than making war to maintain artificial borders.

But its not choosing independance. Tchecoslovakian countries are independent, Scotland will be independent. Donetsk will not be independent. It will be highly dependant on Russia. Infact it wont be a country at all, it will just be a Russian province.

If the same people live in 2 differents countries, like east and west germany, they have the right to join if they choose this way.

But they couldnt choose. People were willing to get themselves killed or spend rest of their lives in prison to escape East and go to West Germany. The only people that were happy in the East were the ones who were rich and werent bothered by all the totalitarianism.

[Butan]

So the true faces appear. This was never about justice or truth. We knew RF was lying, and you knew it probably even better. (Still you defend Putin's actions)

People in here honestly feel it's right and good that Russia serves herself pieces of Ukraine.

Can you tell my WHY this is ok with you? Vovka, Tovi, Butan?

Something new happened recently? I am at a loss.