Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Turkhammer]

What are you on about mate, I love the jews and I totally sympathize with their strugles to survive!!!




REMEMBER THE 6 GAZILLION

Then you must be pleased with way things are going.

[Dark_Blade]

average flightroute through the war zone? hm okay.
there are some strange things else but i dont know everything thats why I wont state them(for example as far as i know the list of people who gone there is still not open as far as i know)
if you dont think about any probability of provacation with this... well its pointless to have any conversation with you. you are just as disable to analyze as the rest of people who belive in every word from some tv channel, no matter what country is it.

[Butan]

Yet more impeccable logic here, brought to you by Tovi. "you are brainwashed, ergo I stay here to be insulted." That's how I identify a retard, Tovi. You, in case you were wondering.

Strange. I though it was people who kept insulting and adding 0 to the discussion.

Different education I guess.



I see 0 news in the last 2 pages though, maybe its time to wait for events to unfold.

[Xant]

Different education I guess.

Yes, definitely, thank god.

[Turkhammer]

No no, according to Panos it's fine if someone's trying to kill you as long as they're not very good at it.

No, no Panos would just stand still until he was shot a few times before he took any action.  Then he would only shoot back one time for each time he was hit because he is so honorable.

[Christo]

No, no Panos would just stand still until he was shot a few times before he took any action.  Then he would only shoot back one time for each time he was hit because he is so honorable.

But panos fires with a mortar, remember? You only need to fire a few shells at them

[Turkhammer]

average flightroute through the war zone? hm okay.
there are some strange things else but i dont know everything thats why I wont state them(for example as far as i know the list of people who gone there is still not open as far as i know)
if you dont think about any probability of provacation with this... well its pointless to have any conversation with you. you are just as disable to analyze as the rest of people who belive in every word from some tv channel, no matter what country is it.

You don't have to believe tv channels.  Just look at any flight tracking site for the last several months.  They will demonstrate that hundreds of flights used that flight path.  Was that poor judgement?  Yes it can be argued that it may have been. 

Or do you think all those sites are in on the conspiracy?  That just this Malaysian Airlines flight was sent in isolation to provoke a shoot down?  A plane that was transmitting it's flight information from it's transponder that showed it's identification and it's altitude.  Even raw data from radar without the transponder would show that the plane was too high (33,000 feet) to land in eastern Ukraine.  How could that provoke an attack?

Occam's Razor posits that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.  The Russian proxies had to make a quick decision to fire or not when they had a short detection window.  They thought they had another juicy Ukr target that they did not want to miss.  And they fucked it up.  Now they are trying to cover their tracks.

[Piok]

Behold! evil BUK

[Tibe]

average flightroute through the war zone? hm okay.
there are some strange things else but i dont know everything thats why I wont state them(for example as far as i know the list of people who gone there is still not open as far as i know)
if you dont think about any probability of provacation with this... well its pointless to have any conversation with you. you are just as disable to analyze as the rest of people who belive in every word from some tv channel, no matter what country is it.

There are a lot of probabilities of provocation in this conflict from both sides yes. But not in this planeshooting. Its just so simple and obvious. Anything more is just some silly conspiracytheory with almost no facts. That WAS an average flightroute that many civilianplanes took and sofar without any mishaps. And the leader of the rebels did post on socialnetworks of how his men shot down a plane almost at the moment when the aircraft crashed and they lied about not having the gear to shoot it down when even the locals admitted that they did and had pictures to prove it. Than they lied that they saw a Ukraine jet shooting down the plane. Which was also a obvious lie. And than they deleted all their posts on the social networks.

They just fucked up. What other things do you want to analyze here? The separatists lied about a lot of details because they got very scared, they had the technology to shoot it down, they basically admitted it, the plane had average people on board and the planes course and altitute was completely regular. Tell me please what other facts would you like to analyze? Seems to me you are more in denial.

[Xant]

It's hilarious how these people are suggesting it's not only possible, but probable, that somebody actually planned to send a civilian plane there to be shot down. jesus.

[DaveUKR]

Just quote 1 thing I said wrong (and that you can proove, of course).

Ok. Lets start

About chocolate chip cookies : they just took the power in Ukraine after violent riots...

Here you claim that nаzis took the power in Ukraine. It wasn't true and still is not. Were there any reasons to speak about it even?

6th Us Fleet is coming toward Crimea. NATO's troops are already at Lviv. Units of tanks have been seen at the Poland's border.
The plan is : invasion of Ukrainia by Nato's troops, with the help of the local dictatorship.

NATO troops in Lviv and so on, ha.

Everything gonna be alright boys, and God Bless America ! I ban myself from this thread. Good luck.

Here you ban yourself from this thread. But you never left it. You just left the thread for THREE days, good job.

Yep. Fascist militias goes to National Guard, while regular army join pro-russian population. Ready for Yugoslavia 2.0 ?

Regular army is the main fighting force there. National Guard is reformed militarized part of Ukrainian Police. During the mobilization the needed part of it was fulfilled from reserve. Or do you think that all those "fascists from Right Sector" have military ranks?

And why the army would remain loyal to an illegal government ? A government that forbide russian language. A government with no money to pay them.
I just wait and watch. You should not laugh.

Ukraine has never forbidden Russian language. And the army is still loyal, is anything wrong Tovi?

Stupid, Russia had no interest for destabilization in Ukraine. But it's Brezinsky doctrine. Stop trolling please.

Does anyone still believe that Russia had no interest in that?

Hundreds of Greystone mercenaries (ex-Blackwater/Academi) are actually at Odessa. They are slowly incorporated in Ukraine special forces to provoke troubles with pro-russian protesters (by shooting at them).

I live in Odessa and it was such a joke from you.

Russia wants federalism in Ukraine, not annexion.

That's just something that I explained earlier. Only an idiot could believe that they wanted federalization, not the annexation. That's why they annexed Crimea and want to annex South-East. Crimea without South-East of Ukraine is a pain in the ass.

Greystone is a subsidiary of Academi. They are around 300 in Ukraine.

Here are just 3 of your quotes for example. I don't need to comment them even, you change your opinion so often

We all can see now that the Empire needs a war. Not Russia. Because Russia needs time.

The USA's goal is not war against Russia. It's to make Russia a rogue state under embargo like Iran.

Anyway, US Corp. wants some fight with Russia. This is their last chance to win a war against Russia, China or Iran. Because, before 2020 the whole dollar system will collapse and then the imperial global army will be no more.

400 Academi's mercenaries are now around Slaviantsk for guerrilla operations.

These bloody Academi mercenaries are everywhere:lol:

My 2 cents on this picture :
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The "antiterrorist" forces unleashed by Kiev to ward off the independence of Donbass are led by the Pole Jerzy Dziewulski.
In this photo taken near Slavjansk last week, he is seen on the left-hand side sitting next to Alexander Turchinov (former intelligence chief who was then Acting President of Ukraine), in the center. The "anti-terrorist" operation was carried out under the supervision of Assistant Secretary of U.S. Defense, Derek Chollet.

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But Russia have absolutly no interest to any intervention in Ukraine. This country is on bankrupty and no one want to pay for them.

Yeah, that's why Putin achieved ratification from Parliament for possible military intervention in Ukraine.

And so on. I didn't mention your completely incompetent messages about weaponry, NWO bullshit messages because I simply got bored commenting even these messages. Are you happy?

[Xant]

Check and mate, Tovi. Can you please fuck off now?

[Tibe]

Wow.....just wow.

[Leesin]

Tovi just got shitted on like a Japanese porn star, just stop posting mate.

[Falka]

average flightroute through the war zone? hm okay.
there are some strange things else but i dont know everything thats why I wont state them(for example as far as i know the list of people who gone there is still not open as far as i know)
if you dont think about any probability of provacation with this... well its pointless to have any conversation with you. you are just as disable to analyze as the rest of people who belive in every word from some tv channel, no matter what country is it.

  Sure, netherlands government sent almost 200 citizens to "provoke" separatists... I like your choice of lectures  but you're really brainwashed.