Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Christo]

More like People's Republic of Vodka.

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[Butan]

Of course they didn't shoot. If they did the interim government would be accused of dealing with demonstrators the same way that the yanukovich government did. They would have lost their legitimacy. Restraint is what Ukraine needs more than anything.

They are dealing with demonstrators the same way the Yanukovich government did. The first 3 months phase.

See you in around 3 months.

[Tovi]

When protesters are pro-EU it's ok, when protesters are pro-Russia it is DEVIL.
Am I right ?

[Thomek]

Cause Russia is more Evil and rotten than EU.

[Tovi]

Maybe, but not more than USA 

Anyway, US Corp. wants some fight with Russia. This is their last chance to win a war against Russia, China or Iran. Because, before 2020 the whole dollar system will collapse and then the imperial global army will be no more.

Will USA loose their hegemony without a shot or will they initiate a big propaganda against the new "evil" axis ?

Wait, but we have chocolate chip cookie trained by NATO, right?
Why would we need mercenaries?

Remember Bandera, he was not very loyal...

[Kuujis]

When protesters are pro-EU it's ok, when protesters are pro-Russia it is DEVIL.
Am I right ?

Somehow I FEEL a difference between maidan protests and "roving armed bands capturing what ever the fuck they want all armed to the teeth and shooting at police stations"...

Frankly - one of two armies WILL have to be present in eastern Ukraine. FOR NOW - its up to Ukraine leaders to decide which army, but seeing as how this "destabilization" tactics proceed - I just don't see it happening for long and then putler will come rushing in "saving" everyone the effort to decide for themselves actually.

[serr]

Antiterrorist operation started.
There is firefight now in Sloviansk, the city on the video I posted yesterday.

A bit late I think, but still necessary, otherwise we would get full-scale civil war between right sector, other pro-ukrainian activists and pro-russian protesters, which is still possible. I understand that probably we will see russian APCs on our streets after this, but still the only "not terrible" solution for this situation is if ukrainian police will prevent fights between right sector and pro-ru protesters and neutralize armed terrorists by themselves.

[Tovi]

Would you still use the term "terrorist" when a part of the army will join protesters ?

[serr]

In that case it will be enemy, opposite side in civil war, hope it won't happen. I'd say it is very unlikely, but who knows..

[Tovi]

How long an ukrainian soldier can see his own people killed by foreign mercenaries ?
But westerners are not alone to play this game. Fighters from Serbia are already there.

[Molly]

I wonder what will happen if Russia actually decides to send troops into the Eastern Ukraine?

I mean, I can imagine several scenarios as a reaction but I am pretty much lost which of those is the most likely.

[serr]

Tovi, you don't agree with term "terrorists"?
Propose your terms then:
Assault of another police station in Donetsk region.

[Tovi]

Terrorists aim civilians (=unarmed people). Simple.

[Molly]

Police officers with raised hands didn't seem armed to me but what do I know, right?

[Tovi]

Shooting in the sky is not terrorism too...
But ok, it's not very nice