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Will Putin command further invasion of Ukraine:

He will and he should, because <random witty/boring reason>
He will, but he should not, because <random witty/boring reason>
He will not, because <random witty/boring reason>
Who is mister Putin?

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Offline Tovi

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4410 on: June 22, 2014, 10:46:12 pm »
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Because Putin is more sympathetic than Obama, maybe.

I like this : http://www.infowars.com/top-u-s-diplomat-russia-has-betrayed-the-new-world-order/
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4411 on: June 23, 2014, 08:13:24 am »
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Because Putin is more sympathetic than Obama, maybe.

I like this : http://www.infowars.com/top-u-s-diplomat-russia-has-betrayed-the-new-world-order/
Putin is more..... WHAT? I mean... I would find the facepalm picture, but... I .... well... its not even fucking close enough to relay my surprise. :|

Is this some kind of "I need macho as head of state otherwise I feel with as if with no balls" sentiment or what? How a sane person can support an ass who annexes part of FRIENDLY SLAV country and then proceeds to wage propaganda war + supporting separatism can even be CONSIDERED as worthy of sympathies - I have no friggin clue... :?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4412 on: June 23, 2014, 09:23:00 am »
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Because Putin is more sympathetic than Obama, maybe.

Obama isnt in charge of anything. The West does not run on dictatorship, unlike Russia.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4413 on: June 23, 2014, 10:50:37 pm »
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Obama isnt in charge of anything. The West does not run on dictatorship, unlike Russia.

+1, Obama has no real power. He's just here to play the "Good Cop" role on TV. He can make war anywhere in the world and have his Peace Nobel Prize in the pocket (If you have some time, check informations about how the Nobel institution really works).
 Putin is more like a russian Degaulle. He's not perfect but strong enough to resist to the pressure. Few politicians can do this.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4414 on: June 24, 2014, 12:37:21 pm »
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Ho noes the truth about Tovi hath been revealed

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4415 on: June 24, 2014, 01:37:14 pm »
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I think he's just trolling.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4416 on: June 24, 2014, 02:47:15 pm »
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French trolling about De Gaulle is... unlikely

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4417 on: June 24, 2014, 08:07:09 pm »
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French trolling about De Gaulle is... unlikely

Yep, no trolling about Joan of Arc, Napoleon or De Gaulle is allowed
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4418 on: June 24, 2014, 08:54:08 pm »
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Putin is more like a russian Degaulle. He's not perfect but strong enough to resist to the pressure. Few politicians can do this.
So what u are techincally saying that what Putin is doing/has done sofar is working and you support dictatorship? And strong enough to resist the pressure of what? The pressure of people trying to tell him not to occupy, destabilize, blackmail and threaten countries significantly weaker than theirs? I for one am quite happy that only a few politicians can do this. :lol:
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4419 on: June 25, 2014, 12:31:13 am »
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Russia is a dictatorship ??  :shock: There is not even death penalty. A good dictatorship must have death penalty.  And a good dictatorship try to spy everybody (in the world, if possible). In fact, a good dictatorship can shot down anyone, without any trial or proof, drop the body into the see and say "Justice is done"  :mrgreen:
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4420 on: June 25, 2014, 12:45:07 am »
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TIL you can't have a dictatorship without a legal death penalty. What was the last time someone got killed after a political trial in the US, again ? Don't worry in Russia the FSB doesn't need a trial to make you disappear.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4421 on: June 25, 2014, 12:47:58 am »
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Russia still is not a dictatorship, stricto sensu.

Most arguments used to determine it is, in fact, could be used to determine that all democracy are dictatorship, because even if elected democratically, power separated and strictly controlled, people placed in charge have the power of dictators, in their zone of influence, during their mandate.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4422 on: June 25, 2014, 06:40:39 am »
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Jup, u learn a lot of new things from Tovi.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4423 on: June 25, 2014, 07:40:24 am »
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In russia dictator dont need a legal death penalty, fbr just poison vodka ((

But to be honest iam fully support Putin's command like Shoigu, Churkin, Lavrov.
In Russia still too much bribery, but it is not possible to change it in two or three years cos it was common shit for like 15 years. We often work with government officials from different towns commitets, and for the last five years they strongly pressed. So now they afraid of taking bribes ((

and I would like to be able to remove politicians from office who offering: create  Russian internet Cheburashka, fine / forced to serve in the army of women who did not give birth after 25,

but even now it much better here than in democratic Ukrain  :twisted:
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #4424 on: June 25, 2014, 10:25:43 am »
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Putin is not a dictator since he came to power after the elections. And he did it 3 times (even 4, if his muppet Mevdedev elections counts too). I'd say he is conservative and authoritarian personality. But not a dictator like Š¯itler, Stalin, Mao, Kaddafi, Saddam or leaders of North Korea were. Here is Russia we have all modern basic freedoms and rights, various opposition forces, and pro-market liberals, who have key posts in the economic block. Anyways our overall political system is awful. We just have no real alternative, and even if you would chose between Putin, Zyuganov, Mironov, Zhirinovsky and some freaks and nonamers every 4 years, like we do - you would also chose Putin in the end, or would just shoot yourself from despondency. I could create a huge wall of text to explain how things stand with the policy in our country, but it most succinctly expressed in the word "shit". Honestly I don't think that the situation in so-called "democratic" countries is far better, when I see leaders like Francois Holland.
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