Rain Effects - Serious Poll

[phnxhdsn]

Rain is the tincans heaven. And before i used to have problems with rain but now after the last patch i think it is needed, because you can't stack Strength as much anymore if you still want to swing sometime this year, and due to heavy increase in ranged due to re-specs I believe that rain is actually generally a good feature. Even though especially in strat battles having your class heavily nerfed like 1/3 of the time to me and having tincans, especially before when they barely get nerfed due to them already being slow..
I believe that Tin cans after 3minutes of being alive should fall short to rust in their armor and their movement speed is slowly over time decreased more and more until they can't move.

[karasu]

The problem is that most of the ranged players will still be pew pew ing (doing less damage, true) since it's rare the case of a viable hybrid build.

In my case, on rain maps I don't have any problem in going melee only, but then again, the agi penalty is so gay and strong... Fighting in slow motion isn't fun at all.

[San]

This isn't the supermajority I had expected...

From my perspective, I just move a lot slower and the slightly lower damage doesn't change the fact that I'm a slower-moving target (unsure if rain affects accuracy). I don't really notice rain in melee negatively affecting me too much unless I'm fighting on hills, then it becomes painful to play.

[Yazid]

I think it's only rambo archers complaining about rain,
Put 10 archers on the field rain or shine and lets see who does the complaining.
In other words, I can hear them now, saying 'NERF RANGED'.

[Angantyr]

The penalties in rain subtracts from fun without adding anything that the rain visuals wouldn't alone. Being really slow is no fun and the ath penalty is pretty severe (don't notice the ranged penalty at all as inf, because I'm zig-zagging so slowly myself and it makes fighting groups much harder with limited footwork) combined with the high chance for rainy maps often many maps in a row. I mostly just quit when it starts raining and more often than not it is raining on the only two official servers we've got left. And I otherwise love rain and snow, the sound and the visuals.

Remove it please.

[Teeth]

I don't see how rain is oh so advantageous to strength builds, isn't there a percentual movement speed modifier? So an agi build that is twice as fast as a strength build pre rain is still gonna be twice as fast as him with rain. Don't see the big deal for agi builds. Actually getting slowed down as an already slow build makes you nearly unable to dodge missiles, whereas agi builds still maintain enough movement speed to be able to dodge effectively.

I was expecting a landslide vote in favour of removing rain penalties, but perhaps people like the weakened ranged damage, eh eh. I think slowing down everyone is just dull without adding anything.

[Gnjus]

Yes, rain should affect mechanics, same as snow and any other shit falling from the sky but there should be like 5% chance for it to happen, same as the night time. We know that in medieval times battles were rarely fought during night and shitty time so there should be 5-10% chance for it to happen on battle server. Balance by realism. Simple as that.

[Angantyr]

there should be like 5% chance for it to happen

Yes, if penalties are not removed outright I completely agree, what was it 15% chance now or so? Feels like a whole lot if you play just a few hours straight.

[Segd]

Perhaps rain effects could persist in Strategus (and the upcoming Epic) which are in fact meant to be more of world simulators / sandbox MMO's?

Sure! Being stuck on one map with tarded weather for 90+ minutes is so fun! 

[Byrdi]

I just dislike the slowing down thing.
It truely does fuck up builds that are aimed at outmanoeuvring (outreaching), since the speed and distance you need to be at when stepping back is something you do instinctively. It is very difficult/impossible to adapt to "the slow down" that happens every 10th map or so.

I my opinion "slow down" is just another random factor that has no place gameplay wise.

[Leshma]

I don't see how rain is oh so advantageous to strength builds, isn't there a percentual movement speed modifier?

I believe there is, but could be wrong. Seems to me that in this bloody game every malus is percentual in nature.

Tydeus, can you please resolve this mystery?

So an agi build that is twice as fast as a strength build pre rain is still gonna be twice as fast as him with rain.

There is probably some limit how slow you can move, because STR builds are moving at almost the same speed when it's raining while my 8 ATH (old build) felt like 5 ATH.

[NuberT]

Rain effects my playstyle as an agile hoplite a lot, I usually just use my 1h weapon more when its raining - it adds variety and should stay imo.

[Prpavi]

where are this tincans and uber str builds you speak of?

[Fartface]

I love it, I like it when xbows don´t one hit me.

[Leshma]

where are this tincans and uber str builds you speak of?

Mostly on EU2. But Strategus battles and sieges are full of tincans