Rain Effects - Serious Poll

[Elindor]

I know this has been brought up like 800 times but I figured I'd try to do one serious poll about it so that we could bring it to the attention of the devs if it is something the community feels pretty strongly about.

RAIN EFFECTS on GAME MECHANICS - YEA or NAY

Rain/weather is a cool atmospheric effect that adds immersion - but it also adds some negative effects on game mechanics that hinder us all to varying degrees when it is present. Being that cRPG is a melee combat arena game (and not a sandbox MMO), does the community want these negative effects from rain and other weather?

Here are the stats about the rain effect from WaltF4's findings.

- Rain reduces movement speed by roughly 7.8%
- Rain reduces bow damage by 10%
- Rain reduces crossbow damage by 25%

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Not sure, but heard it also effects melee wpf?  Maybe someone could verify that.

Perhaps rain effects could persist in Strategus (and the upcoming Epic) which are in fact meant to be more of world simulators / sandbox MMO's?
It is my belief though, and I think that of many others - that rain effects are not good features for a melee combat arena game like cRPG.

Please vote and leave thoughts.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Rain is a horribly implemented shit feature that randomly nerfs xbowies, my old friendchers, and people who don't stack str.

[Elindor]

Hmm, well either people feel differently about this than I have heard over the years or they misunderstood the poll options so far....

[Yazid]

Rain can't have constant movement impact because that highly depends on the surface it falls on.... the difference between mud and a green field,
Also I don't see how rain would make a crossbow bolt hurt less, or an archer draw less quickly.

Historically speaking, heavy rain was supposed to jam crossbows but archers never had a problem with this (Agincourt)

Actually Takeda miscalculated the rains effects on Oda's arquebuses in the battle of Nagashino to disastrous consequences (they thought they would malfunction).

My conclusion is that we have to think much deeper and delve historically deeper before considering rain effects.

[RobertOfDrugsley]

Some maps are good for archers, some aren't. Some maps are good for cav, some aren't. Same with game modes. That weather effect are the same way is quite fine by me. So ... Yes to rain!

[Elindor]

Rain can't have constant movement impact because that highly depends on the surface it falls on.... the difference between mud and a green field,
Also I don't see how rain would make a crossbow bolt hurt less, or an archer draw less quickly.

Historically speaking, heavy rain was supposed to jam crossbows but archers never had a problem with this (Agincourt)

Actually Takeda miscalculated the rains effects on Oda's arquebuses in the battle of Nagashino to disastrous consequences (they thought they would malfunction).

My conclusion is that we have to think much deeper and delve historically deeper before considering rain effects.

As a rule, history and realism are secondary factors for the devs in cRPG (gameplay being the primary)...which is why rain effects are weird and out of place in the mod.

[Rebelyell]

only because it fucks ranged more than anybody else

[Swaggart]

Rain can't have constant movement impact because that highly depends on the surface it falls on.... the difference between mud and a green field,
Also I don't see how rain would make a crossbow bolt hurt less, or an archer draw less quickly.

Historically speaking, heavy rain was supposed to jam crossbows but archers never had a problem with this (Agincourt)

Actually Takeda miscalculated the rains effects on Oda's arquebuses in the battle of Nagashino to disastrous consequences (they thought they would malfunction).

My conclusion is that we have to think much deeper and delve historically deeper before considering rain effects.

Rain didn't jam crossbows. It got the draw string wet which made it lose tension (or whatever it lost). With bows you can easily take the string off and keep it dry.

Also, fuck rain.

[Phantasmal]

Rain is a horribly implemented shit feature that randomly nerfs xbowies, my old friendchers, and people who don't stack str.

Could not have said it any better. 10/10.

[Riddaren]

Rain is horrible for horsemen. I find it hard to belive it's only -7.8%.

[Ikarus]

I disabled particle effects, so...yeah.
 

[Life]

i have resorted to making a 2h alt for when it rains and i cannot use my arbalest to its full potential.

in other words... i have joined the dark side..

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[Elindor]

I disabled particle effects, so...yeah.
 

sorry to break it to you, but whether you can SEE the rain or not, it's still effecting your character.

  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MECHANICAL (SERVER SIDE) EFFECTS OF RAIN ON YOUR CHARACTERS HERE PEOPLE, NOT THE VISUAL PART - THAT PART IS FINE
Whether you have particles on or off and see rain or do not, it's still making your character slower in game...that is what we are polling on.

No offense, but this distinction is pretty clear in the first post, is it not?
Let me know if it is not.

[Leshma]

I disabled particle effects, so...yeah.
 

You can't disable rain if you're running WSE2. At least I can't.

Rain has always been best buff for melee STR builds.

[Osiris]

more rain = less ranged a sigh of relief comes out of my mouth when i see rain and fog. And im not a str stacker so it hurts me too.