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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2013, 01:08:09 am »
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Eh I use a Iron War Axe (shit reach and slowest 1h but you'll feel it when it hits) and I have like 103 effective wpf with armor weight. It is harder but not by much, you just need to have a faster reaction time and when there is an opening release fucking hell on earth!

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2013, 01:25:19 am »
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Throwing lances I can understand as a problem. 21 strength and 7 PT (I'm sure you are getting PS too if you want to level polearm skill) is a big investment and keeps you from getting very high levels of WM. 1H/throwing with axes is a little easier to stat out since you aren't forced into high str/skill investments by the item. 15 or 18 strength with full PT/PS leaves lots of room to pump your agility.

It would be nice if increasing throwing wpf gave you a bonus to 1H and polearm, like the melee skills share now. Just don't make it stack with the melee one, otherwise there'd probably some goofy build with points into throwing wpf but no power throw. And that's dumb.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2013, 01:47:00 am »
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2013, 01:51:14 am »
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update ist ok, but only if they buff archer and 1h now. otherwise its just a fucking joke.

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2013, 10:20:10 am »
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Throwing lances I can understand as a problem. 21 strength and 7 PT (I'm sure you are getting PS too if you want to level polearm skill) is a big investment and keeps you from getting very high levels of WM. 1H/throwing with axes is a little easier to stat out since you aren't forced into high str/skill investments by the item. 15 or 18 strength with full PT/PS leaves lots of room to pump your agility.

It would be nice if increasing throwing wpf gave you a bonus to 1H and polearm, like the melee skills share now. Just don't make it stack with the melee one, otherwise there'd probably some goofy build with points into throwing wpf but no power throw. And that's dumb.

That's my problem. But I've just see that Throwing requirment gets from 13 to 11. I may go from 24/15 to 21/18. Does Thr 120 wpf equal to old 130 wpf ?

Throwing axe is just shity. I master the throwing lance, it's my main weapon.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2013, 04:22:44 pm »
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So many myths here... PS: now I see that red lightsabers don't come out of nothing.

Red lightsabers are given to people who dont get why the fuck should 2H be faster than any other weapon type and cut everything
in half while the user bashes his head constantly on keyboard and still tops the goddamn board.

People say that shields are for no skill noobs that cannot block, but seriously, since when was the last time that 2H required careful calculation of range and speed? When was the last time that 2H users did anything else than facehugged everyone (or backpedaled) and spammed LMB at angles where 1H would harmlessly bounce off?

I dont want to disrespect 2H players, many of them are great and skillful players, I am just tired of those fucks who dash at me and circle jerk around me while their attacks, regardless how awfully they are landed, hit me for full damage.

Combat is not anymore about who is better at combat, it is now who gets behind the other ones back first while hitting LMB like madman.

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2013, 04:43:36 pm »
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I dont notice a difference at all in speed of combat.

The biggest difference is that fewer people run high tanky str builds, and that there is way way more ranged.

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2013, 06:33:30 pm »
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I must apologize. The new throwing ratio 13==>11 is fine. I can use my throwing lance even with less wpf.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2013, 06:39:54 pm »
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Red lightsabers are given to people who dont get why the fuck should 2H be faster than any other weapon type and cut everything
in half while the user bashes his head constantly on keyboard and still tops the goddamn board.

People say that shields are for no skill noobs that cannot block, but seriously, since when was the last time that 2H required careful calculation of range and speed? When was the last time that 2H users did anything else than facehugged everyone (or backpedaled) and spammed LMB at angles where 1H would harmlessly bounce off?

I dont want to disrespect 2H players, many of them are great and skillful players, I am just tired of those fucks who dash at me and circle jerk around me while their attacks, regardless how awfully they are landed, hit me for full damage.

Combat is not anymore about who is better at combat, it is now who gets behind the other ones back first while hitting LMB like madman.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2013, 06:45:42 pm »
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you are new over here,
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As in, respec into 12/24 weaboo bundle of sticks katana whore with 13 athletics?  :rolleyes:

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2013, 06:48:04 pm »
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2013, 06:51:10 pm »
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12/24 and 13 athletics?

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Ok that was pretty dumb.

Anyways, do me a favor and go tell this shit to people who complained about rondel dagger, thanks.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2013, 07:28:36 pm »
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TRUTH!

It's just ironic coming from you
why?
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2013, 08:02:54 pm »
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Everyone is more agi spammy on average.

I find 1h seem the hardest to block when they are close.

This patch must have been a gift to those with low ping.

Give it some time though, I think the strength builds were OP.