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Offline brockssn

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2013, 09:21:35 pm »
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http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/free-loompoint/msg751398/#msg751398

This post and others in your post history would seem to suggest that you're the same Brock that was formerly in Teutonic, who is an NA player that I saw just yesterday racking up a respectable number of kills by one-shotting most of the people who got in range of him with his axe.

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2013, 09:23:11 pm »
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2013, 09:24:50 pm »
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You quoted yourself? LOL?

Ok ok, so, you think that overauling WPF distribution without adjusting other aspects to fit faster combat is fine?

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2013, 09:26:03 pm »
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learn chambers

Chambering 200wpf spammy longsworder is a suicide, and chambering is a technique that can absolutely not be relied upon.

EDIT: Double posted, sorry.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2013, 09:27:13 pm »
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Does any of you actually read what other people write? brockssn asked what build I use on my 1h alt, which I said before, so ofc I quoted myself ... omg, I'm out of this

I was refering to the first bit but ok whatever.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2013, 09:32:34 pm »
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Chambering 200wpf spammy longsworder is a suicide, and chambering is a technique that can absolutely not be relied upon.

EDIT: Double posted, sorry.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2013, 09:58:09 pm »
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Gameplay is being sped up with higher wpf's, its good.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2013, 10:40:55 pm »
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You have some workarounds available to you for getting spammed, and they also need a few more hits before they'll be able to kill you.

You can use a faster weapon yourself to overcome the speed difference, rely on stunning their blocks with a heavy weapon, learn to react as fast as possible after a block, learn to chamber a non-held swing (same timing each time), and more.

Chambering 200wpf spammy longsworder is a suicide, and chambering is a technique that can absolutely not be relied upon.

EDIT: Double posted, sorry.

If they don't hold, a swing can be chambered with the same timing nearly 100% of the time. (only time it doesn't are very bad/odd angles where they'll glance on you anyways. Stabs on the other hand...

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2013, 10:49:10 pm »
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lol i use 112 wpf onehanded and its still nice with the right weapon im fast and can kill the most guys with mymelee sword with 103 speed so i think 112 wpf are fine with the right weapon

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2013, 10:52:31 pm »
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Maybe it's time to quit cRPG for me. My build is broken, I can't even more be a 1h/thrower +shield. I've built this character for long time and I don't want to start again with a single shielder or a pure thrower. Too boring.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2013, 10:55:55 pm »
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Maybe it's time to quit cRPG for me. My build is broken, I can't even more be a 1h/thrower +shield. I've built this character for long time and I don't want to start again with a single shielder or a pure thrower. Too boring.

Hybrids were buffed with this patch...you get way more wpf if you can get 6 or more WM.  You just have to adapt your build.

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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2013, 11:01:22 pm »
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Another Chamber of Tears candidate :D
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2013, 11:27:34 pm »
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So many myths here...
people are pushing 240 2h wpf
but they can literally keep spamming and you cant swing back
200wpf guys that go pure melee with 2H, they probably have agility so high that nobody is able to shoot them, especially when they are on move.
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2013, 11:28:03 pm »
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Stop trying to duel 240 WPF katana wielders.  Problem solved.  Or chamber block them.  Or get a faster weapon (that's your problem is my guess, not your WPF if you have 100)
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Re: 100 wpf is no longer 'ok'
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2013, 11:40:05 pm »
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If you have problem blocking them with their speed, check if you have weapon trail activated or not in the options menu. I had it on full and it makes attacks harder to read. Switched to none and it's a lot easier.
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