while i don't condone the way this was handled by Wolves at all, i have to say the following
Fenris will be returning goods/money two of members left the Wolves with.
This was never intended to anything underhand. The members leaving the Wolves felt they had earnt a small share of the resources generated by them in their time. I instructed the leavers to keep what they considered fair, this was never intended as theft or in any way a hidden action.
Unfortunately when first member left with goods we assumed there was no issue, the Wolves evidently saw this "as letting one go". When it happened the second time Wolves saw this as provocative while Fenris thought there was no issue. Attacks then followed.
Unfortunately the subsequent public row caused some hopefully temporary personal issues. We want to look forward, even though starting a faction from little is hard and what we were taking was the proceeds of 1-3 good trading runs in the endgame board which we felt the Fenris Wolves members had probably earnt and as such we were not keen on begging.
As ever communication may not have been as ideal as we would have liked and a percieved lack of respect may have escalated into more serious contention.
To be absolutely clear there was no betrayal, no backstabbing it was a couple of members taking, openly, what they believed was a fair amount to help start up a new venture with after long service. The clan had hoped to work very closely with the Wolves to mutual gain. No-one in our clan wants war with the Wolves, most of us helped build the clan and even though as a starting clan with minimal resources we could do little to harm to the Wolves we would not wish to do so anyway.
Why not ask Grand what I told him when you showed up here again, You will be surprised.
In case you cba or just are too grand minded to want to do it, I told grand if you asked for leadership from me or any members in the clan you would have had a 99.9% chance of getting it back with my blessing, thats how high in esteem I held you.
While i do not question Grandmom and his views. This is not quite then how you and others reacted onto the things i suggested and asked for, i didn't tell but i asked. From those i retracted step by step point by point till nothing i wanted was left. So staying inside of Wolves has then not been an option anymore afterwards, as it became clear it would have been a powerstruggle and not the 99,99% support by the current leadership. Words are just that, aslong no actions follow and while the actions of Fenris members had been not the shining example i would like them to be ... yours aren't either.
This is the last thing i have to say "here" on this matter.