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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2013, 11:31:07 am »
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while i don't condone the way this was handled by Wolves at all, i have to say the following

Fenris will be returning goods/money two of members left the Wolves with.

This was never intended to anything underhand. The members leaving the Wolves felt they had earnt a small share of the resources generated by them in their time. I instructed the leavers to keep what they considered fair, this was never intended as theft or in any way a hidden action.

Unfortunately when first member left with goods we assumed there was no issue, the Wolves evidently saw this "as letting one go". When it happened the second time Wolves saw this as provocative while Fenris thought there was no issue. Attacks then followed.

Unfortunately the subsequent public row caused some hopefully temporary personal issues. We want to look forward, even though starting a faction from little is hard and what we were taking was the proceeds of 1-3 good trading runs in the endgame board which we felt the Fenris Wolves members had probably earnt and as such we were not keen on begging.

As ever communication may not have been as ideal as we would have liked and a percieved lack of respect may have escalated into more serious contention.

To be absolutely clear there was no betrayal, no backstabbing it was a couple of members taking, openly, what they believed was a fair amount to help start up a new venture with after long service. The clan had hoped to work very closely with the Wolves to mutual gain. No-one in our clan wants war with the Wolves, most of us helped build the clan and even though as a starting clan with minimal resources we could do little to harm to the Wolves we would not wish to do so anyway.


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While i do not question Grandmom and his views. This is not quite then how you and others reacted onto the things i suggested and asked for, i didn't tell but i asked. From those i retracted step by step point by point till nothing i wanted was left. So staying inside of Wolves has then not been an option anymore afterwards, as it became clear it would have been a powerstruggle and not the 99,99% support by the current leadership. Words are just that, aslong no actions follow and while the actions of Fenris members had been not the shining example i would like them to be ... yours aren't either.

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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2013, 11:38:11 am »
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So much fucking drama over Strat, c'mon grow up ffss.
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2013, 11:49:13 am »
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So much fucking drama over Strat, c'mon grow up ffss.

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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2013, 11:57:30 am »
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but strat drama best drama
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2013, 12:09:34 pm »
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2013, 12:34:23 pm »
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2013, 12:36:03 pm »
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So guika and winterfell acted completely without orders, nothing related to the fact that the cat is out of the bag publicly ?  :)

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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2013, 03:31:59 pm »
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Should not have handled this publicly.

I personally think that what you make in a faction, belongs to a faction.  The only way I think it would be okay to leave with goods/gear/troops/gold is if you entered the faction with goods/gear/troops/gold.

I think it was generous to say "hey keep the gear/troops/fief (gold?), but the goods are ours"

Either way, welcome back Kinngrimm.
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2013, 03:49:55 pm »
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Sad, just sad.
Some people should really learn what loyalty and honesty  actually mean.
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2013, 04:14:34 pm »
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Sad, just sad.
Some people should really learn what loyalty and honesty  actually mean.

true that. :(
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2013, 08:15:02 pm »
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When you are in a faction you cant have anything .let me say again ,ANYTHING! What you got belongs to your faction.You cant have any reason to take them with you .Your reasons are invalid and ridiculous kinngrimm.Oh you leaded this faction in the past and you think you can have something my dear :( NO YOU CAN NOT.I dont want to open another discussion but you left this clan when this faction had almost nothing .
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2013, 10:55:23 pm »
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It's funny cos both sides clearly think that statement is supporting them xD

it only applies to the wolves rather than fenris though lol
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2013, 11:02:44 pm »
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it only applies to the wolves rather than fenris though lol

Why not to both??

Winter is loyal to his ex clan leader kinngrimm, I fail to see why it only applies to wolves.

Anyway, nothing new here, Odysseus is your typical little cunt silly boy, and thank god my point was proven, when Kinngrimm left the mod, I was the only one who kept repeating that the wolves have gotten worse since his departure.

Thanks for proving me right Odysseus (God it annoys me that a little cunt silly boy like yourself is using the name of one of the greatest Greek heroes), anyway, Kinn, once again you have my Polearm!


Ninja Edit : When I say worse, I mean not as a clan in general, because Wolves have some pretty skilled and good fellas!

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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2013, 11:14:40 pm »
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Why not to both??

Winter is loyal to his ex clan leader kinngrimm, I fail to see why it only applies to wolves.

Anyway, nothing new here, Odysseus is your typical little cunt silly boy, and thank god my point was proven, when Kinngrimm left the mod, I was the only one who kept repeating that the wolves have gotten worse since his departure.

Thanks for proving me right Odysseus (God it annoys me that a little cunt silly boy like yourself is using the name of one of the greatest Greek heroes), anyway, Kinn, once again you have my Polearm!


Ninja Edit : When I say worse, I mean not as a clan in general, because Wolves have some pretty skilled and good fellas!

Only Fuma is a my old friendgit

winter switching clans is no problem, i think everybody is old enough to decide which clan to belong to, but after having been in wolves for quite a while, then just taking the fief, the army (which both was alright for ody) and also the goods without even asking is a stab right in the back of the wolves, and everything but honourable behavior
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Re: Nasty business
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2013, 11:17:41 pm »
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