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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2013, 01:28:34 am »
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I'd seriously like to blame only disinformation caused by media, but (un)fortunately we do have ways to inform ourselves; people should start assuming their responsibility too.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2013, 01:32:28 am »
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Disinformation by the media is not a problem, the problem is that most people aren't smart enough to see through the crap fed to them by more intelligent people.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2013, 01:55:06 am »
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I'd seriously like to blame only disinformation caused by media, but (un)fortunately we do have ways to inform ourselves; people should start assuming their responsibility too.

It's really hard though.

There is the money on one side, presenting you hand-picked information, even studies financed by corporations to make the facts fit their needs and win politics and the public opinion.
There's "ruling class"-language, manipulating your way of thinking without you even noticing it.
There's over-zealous conspiracy theoretics on the other side, who claim all kinds of stuff without checking their facts, because it's some sort of hobby for them.
And then there's stories about journalists who lose their job, if they take the freedom to report something that wasn't authorized.

No matter what you do, you depend on others to get your information from. And unfortunately, people have the tendency to leave out the parts that don't fit with the opinion they want you to have. If people had the decency to be honest, differentiated and give you the facts you need to decide for yourself, the world wouldn't be so fucked up. You have to trust certain sources in the end. I just think, people tend to trust the most professional liars and deceivers.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2013, 06:39:03 am »
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Disinformation by the media is not a problem, the problem is that most people aren't smart enough to see through the crap fed to them by more intelligent people.
Its not always about intelligence and seeing through the crap. Some people are just closer to the source of certain information than others, knowing what really took place and how. If we take the actual extremes like FOX than in that case it is the question of intelligence.

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2013, 07:22:24 am »
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It's still a matter of intelligence. If you're intelligent, you'll know not to be too certain about information that you're not sure about. And there are other ways of verifying information and determining how probable it is.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #110 on: November 06, 2013, 08:37:35 am »
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Even the most intelligent don't understand today's world anymore. And they're not supposed to. That's part of the system. Can anyone here honestly claim, they completely understand our financial markets and know what to do about them? The complexity of the system isn't just completely unnecessary, it's undemocratic. The parasites that are making money out of money, have corrupted the system so much, have found all kinds of ways to create speculation (leader language for "betting") that no outsider can understand anymore. But those financial markets are what really shapes and governs this world. It's called "capitalism" for a reason, you know. In the end it's all just virtual, though. Our money isn't even worth anything by itself anymore, like it used to be. Suddenly there is a financial crisis that fucks up real economies and people starve. And what happens afterwards? Nothing. People don't even understand what happened, and who can blame them?
Capitalism brings out the worst in people. It's a nihilistic, inhuman system that requires people and corporations to fight each other or go down. There should be no way to exponentially generate more money simply by having it. And there shouldn't be interest rates to enslave common people into the economy and force unlimited growth at the expense of environment, people, animals, everything. The national debts in this world are about as high as the privately owned money by the upper zero-point-something percent. So even your taxes are paid to the banks that own you. And it's getting worse all the time. There is no turning it around. Either heads will roll or we are getting our Orwell-world. Technological advance is ready for it.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #111 on: November 06, 2013, 08:41:40 am »
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Fixing financial markets is not dark magic, lots of people know how it could be done. But will it be fixed? Different story altogether. Most politicians are not economically literate.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #112 on: November 06, 2013, 01:50:34 pm »
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Svaztika is a viking symbol rippoff. basicly certain germans 60 years ago apparently had a thing for vikings and thought they could wipe out 50mill innocent people cus of their skin color, belief or way of life. iPuke®

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svaztika << had to spell it wrong due to nice mature censorship
Isnt it a symbol from asia for: the lands of the rising sun?
So thats NA, why do you care about EU? Are you trying to export freedom?

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2013, 05:16:39 pm »
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So Panos doesn't like national socialist, but he still uses the party symbol of the Swedish party "Svenskarnas Parti" (The Swedish People's Party, kinda) as a profile pic, who used to call themselves "National Socialistic Front". Obvious chocolate chip cookie's are obvious.

PS. Be a man and stand up for what you believe in, instead of coming with excuses and shittalk.
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2013, 06:29:07 pm »
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So is this Panos' best troll thread since 2010?
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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2013, 09:27:27 pm »
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Hi, I live in America and therefore have little knowledge of how to access unbiased information regarding current political happenings in the Mediterranean.

Where can I find out what exactly the Golden Dawn are, who they stand for, what they stand for, and exactly how they behave, without there being some sort of massive bias toward or against it?


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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #116 on: November 06, 2013, 10:21:35 pm »
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Hi, I live in America and therefore have little knowledge of how to access unbiased information regarding current political happenings in the Mediterranean.

Where can I find out what exactly the Golden Dawn are, who they stand for, what they stand for, and exactly how they behave, without there being some sort of massive bias toward or against it?
http://www.vice.com/read/golden-dawn-camp-photos

Now we know where panos learned hes godly melee skills :lol:

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #117 on: November 06, 2013, 11:22:13 pm »
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http://www.vice.com/read/golden-dawn-camp-photos

Now we know where panos learned hes godly melee skills :lol:

Vice.

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #118 on: November 07, 2013, 12:05:38 am »
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Wasn't a part of Vice bought out by FOX recently?

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Re: No need to be mad
« Reply #119 on: November 07, 2013, 04:26:46 am »
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Hi, I live in America and therefore have little knowledge of how to access unbiased information regarding current political happenings in the Mediterranean.

Where can I find out what exactly the Golden Dawn are, who they stand for, what they stand for, and exactly how they behave, without there being some sort of massive bias toward or against it?
Greece maybe?
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