No need to be mad

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[Osiris]

Silly scotland

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Among some kinds of frogs, mistaken homosexual courtship is so common that a "release call" is used by males who find themselves in the clutches of another male to notify him that they're both wasting their time.

[Pinche]

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Akropolis was built some thousand years ago by Nazees!


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[Kafein]

'Because if you rob people of their identity, if you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence' - Nigel Farage, speaking to the EU parlament

Instead of just condemning the forces stirring in today's Greece - which would seem so easy for anyone not living there - perhaps we should understand it in the context of the country being first destroyed then enslaved economically, by the EU and the World Bank - in the literal sense.

This robbed the entirely innocent Greek People of many of both their civil and democratic rights, while being forced to watch greedy, corrupt politicians sell out their country, again in the literal sense, to unelected business executives and eurocrats, not entirely dissimilar to what has happened previously in the century. Golden Dawn had next to no influence before this collapse.

People are starving in the streets, society is replaced by an economic and unconstitutional prison, Golden Dawn has thus far been one of the few to offer any understanding of the people's grievances, offering support and food for the needy, emotional rhetoric to warm the cold and calm the rightly fearful - even if they've played for it politically, in the hope of a power grab. They've been the only ones, in the eyes of many Greeks, to seriously challenge what is perceived, and probably rightly so, as a foreign, hostile takeover of their country.

They are also nationalistic, violent and racist, in rhetoric aswell as action, and much more honest about their beliefs than most other right wingers. A textbook example of Germany in the 30s. And yet it doesn't seem so hard to understand why people are flocking beneath their banner, the situation and alternatives in mind. Many of their voters since their early obscurity come from not radical elements, people who may be afraid of and who do not agree with all the underlying fascism, but who sees Golden Dawn as the only party representing them, even if only to some extent.

As I said to Panos ealier, Golden Dawn, or left extremists for that matter, will only make the problem worse.

Best thing to do as an inhabitant of Greece is don't be a patriotic idiot and GTFO. And I guess that's what the brains of the country already did.

[Osiris]

being patriotic makes you an idiot?

[Kafein]

being patriotic makes you an idiot?

Yes. What good is there being patriotic ?

[[ptx]]

Being at least somewhat patriotic creates healthy competition between nations, countries, etc, not just individuals - whilst also giving an additional way to be individual, rather than being a part of a grey whole. Also hurts no one.

Being overly patriotic leads to massive retardation.

[Kafein]

Being at least somewhat patriotic creates healthy competition between nations, countries, etc, not just individuals

"Healthy competition" between nations generates unhealthy gang mentality, favoritism for your gang and a lack of progress due to resistance against "foreign ideas".

- whilst also giving an additional way to be individual, rather than being a part of a grey whole. Also hurts no one.

Also forces down additional societal norms because you have to conform to your national identity

[AntiBlitz]

"Healthy competition" between nations generates unhealthy gang mentality, favoritism for your gang and a lack of progress due to resistance against "foreign ideas".

Also forces down additional societal norms because you have to conform to your national identity

or you could just move to America, because we are Americans, and not Germans, Hungarians, swedish, Finnish, British, whatever, we are all just Americans.

Patriotism is a good thing, its what makes countries and people strive to be better then others, which creates progress, either social, economical, or scientific.  You just be yourself, and be proud of who you are, wherever you live.  If you decide you have to dumb yourself down to fit a norm, that you think your society accepts, maybe you should stop being a sheep, and be an individual.  Just sounds like excuses to be some sort of emo anarchist or some shit.

[[ptx]]

"Healthy competition" between nations generates unhealthy gang mentality, favoritism for your gang and a lack of progress due to resistance against "foreign ideas".

Also forces down additional societal norms because you have to conform to your national identity

Let me use the helpful BOLD markup on my post.

Being at least somewhat patriotic creates healthy competition between nations, countries, etc, not just individuals - whilst also giving an additional way to be individual, rather than being a part of a grey whole. Also hurts no one.

Being overly patriotic leads to massive retardation.

[_schizo321437]

The human race is rubbish super organism. 

[Kafein]

Let me use the helpful BOLD markup on my post.

My point is that even the slightest bit of patriotism is deeply rooted in stupidity. Why should you not be proud of good things happening to "other peoples" just as much as you are of "your people" ? You should be more intelligent and more adapted to your times than the tribal brain that was handed to you by your ancestors.