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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2011, 08:02:01 pm »
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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 09:32:20 pm »
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Masterpiece Steel Shield Current Stats
body armor: 78
difficulty: 6
hit points: 289
speed rating: 64
shield width: 31

Masterpiece Steel Shield Previous Stats
body armor: 82
difficulty: 6
hit points: 331
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31


best part is the title of this thread is "Shield Heirloom VERY gimp now"

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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 10:22:05 pm »
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oh god... no wonder i've noticed my shield breaking way easier... they gimped the shit out of it after I heirloomed it. why?!?! my build is becoming less viable, agi shielders need more love, not more hate. i already hit like a little girl and die in 1-2 hits, now im noticing athletics seeming to do less, and my shield is breaking easier. meanwhile, str builds are all laughing their asses off as their armour is more useful than before and they arent getting circles run around them as much as they used to. boooooooooooooo.

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weight: 9
body armor: 24
difficulty: 5
hit points: 453
speed rating: 83
shield width: 42

if it looked that bad when i was putting the points into it, i prolly woulda heirloomed another weapon, or some armour.

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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2011, 08:22:43 am »
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Agreed.

I retired and went shielder after a long period of playing pure 2h build (havent heard those "Gnjus cant play without his shield" comments for some time now, anyone ?). I spent 3 loom points in shield and the next day evil my old friendader the Cadaver (aka NerFasa) nerfs the loomed shields and makes 'em even more useless then they were yesterday (being breaked even by a dozen arrows, not to mention 1 or 2 axe hits, and we're talking about heavy rounder with 6 shield skill here). I'm seriously considering to kick him out of our clan for that.
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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2011, 12:37:53 pm »
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Agreed.

I retired and went shielder after a long period of playing pure 2h build (havent heard those "Gnjus cant play without his shield" comments for some time now, anyone ?). I spent 3 loom points in shield and the next day evil my old friendader the Cadaver (aka NerFasa) nerfs the loomed shields and makes 'em even more useless then they were yesterday (being breaked even by a dozen arrows, not to mention 1 or 2 axe hits, and we're talking about heavy rounder with 6 shield skill here). I'm seriously considering to kick him out of our clan for that.

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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2011, 12:27:20 am »
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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2011, 02:11:49 am »
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So can we expect a change to the shield heirlooms in the near future?

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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2011, 06:02:15 am »
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a fully heirloomed weapon might only do +3  base damage, but that gets amplified significantly once you factor in power strike and movement bonus. Shields don't get nearly as amplified.

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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2011, 02:07:04 am »
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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 04:35:26 pm »
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I have a masterpiece knightly heater shield now and the extra 3 speed is not really worth the extra hp and armour lost on the shield.

Before my shield (2x bonus) would last nearly as long as a huscarl while being significantly faster but at a significant reduction of block radius.

Now it is a bit tougher and imperceptibly faster for 3 heirloom points.

Compared to the bonus weapons and armour get, shields are not in line.

Please un-nerf shield heirlooms!!
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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2011, 09:14:18 pm »
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I'm not saying that heirlooming shields isn't worth it (as any bonus is better than none), more that they've again taken away any reason to use a shield other than the huscarl.
Huscarl is 2 slots, your masterwork heavy round shield is only 1 slot, right?

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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2011, 10:02:24 pm »
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Huscarl is 2 slots, your masterwork heavy round shield is only 1 slot, right?

Indeed it is. However, that fact doesn't really affect your average shielder. The only benefit that has is that I can carry a pike (where I can't use my shield anyway) or use a crossbow (which I think defeats the purpose of being a shielder.

My main point is the shield heirloom nerf really hurt shield diversity again. Previously, you could take a crappy shield that you like and heirloom it to where it would become decent. Now you can heirloom a weak shield and it's...less crappy?
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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2011, 11:00:29 pm »
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Honestly it seems like they tried to buff shield hierlooms by adding a speed bonus, but also indirectly nerfed them significantly when they drastically reduced the core bonus the shield gets, which is that it becomes a tougher shield.

Other lower tier shields could become comparable to a huscarl unheirloomed before, now they are still just lower tier shields that are just slightly less crappy.

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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2011, 01:08:55 pm »
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Gnjus can't play without his shield! Damn noob!

@topic Shields heirlooms are fine, in line with every other nerfed heirloom. They are all close to nothing.
This is just a shielder whine thread, mimimi buff my loom.
 
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Re: Shield Heirloom very gimp now
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2011, 06:22:23 pm »
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Gnjus can't play without his shield! Damn noob!

@topic Shields heirlooms are fine, in line with every other nerfed heirloom. They are all close to nothing.
This is just a shielder whine thread, mimimi buff my loom.

Its the fact that they changed the heirloom the day after the reset.

And that it looked like they tried to buff them but really didn't

Read the thread next time ggkthx.