Shield Heirloom very gimp now

[Konrax]

With the changes to the shield heirlooms they are very unattractive to spend the points on.

The extra speed is barely noticeable  compared to the extra hp and armour offered before.

Can we please return them back to how they were before?

[Cheap_Shot]

As far as I can tell, every heirloom got gimped. It was a major blanket change. Nothing is attractive anymore. 'sept you shuga :blow kiss: :winkyface:

[Siiem]

Heirloom modifiers were changed across the board because they were too powerfull, shields included.

[rustyspoon]

Those that heirloomed shields (same as horses) are just terribly unlucky since the devs decided to nerf those heirlooms after the heirloom redistribution. Lucky us. 

[Seawied]

Anyone have the new and old stats of a shield heirloom? I never saw heirloomed shields as much of a problem.

[rustyspoon]

Anyone have the new and old stats of a shield heirloom? I never saw heirloomed shields as much of a problem.

As an example, here is a masterworked heavy round shield pre-patch:

weight: 8
body armor: 21
difficulty: 3
hit points: 445
spd rtng: 84
shield width: 40
Can't use on horseback

Here's a masterworked heavy round shield post-patch:

weight: 7.5
body armor: 19
difficulty: 4
hit points: 378
speed rating: 87
shield width: 39
Can't use on horseback

So it loses a ton of HP and some body armor but gains speed (which is worthless anyway)

I'm honestly fine with them nerfing shield heirlooms I just wished they did it when they nerfed everything else. Instead I now have a masterworked shield that is far inferior to the plain old Huscarl. The real problem is, before the shield heirlooms were nerfed, you could make a bad shield decent and add to much needed shield diversity. As it stands, you're just better off using the Huscarl again. 

For reference, here's a plain old, non-heirloomed huscarl:

weight: 9
body armor: 20
difficulty: 5
hit points: 400
speed rating: 80
shield width: 42
Can't use on horseback

[Seawied]

Fair enough. I buy your argument about shield heirlooms.

+1 to supporters of the thread.

[Lech]

It's fine and i heirloomed my shield.

[Rhaelys]

As far as I can tell, every heirloom got gimped. It was a major blanket change. Nothing is attractive anymore. 'sept you shuga :blow kiss: :winkyface:

Armor, gloves, and boots heirlooming got even more attractive with the hardened/lordly buff.

[EponiCo]

Here's a masterworked heavy round shield post-patch:

weight: 7.5
body armor: 19
difficulty: 4
hit points: 378
speed rating: 87
shield width: 39
Can't use on horseback

Here's the regular shield

Heavy Round Shield
weight: 7.5
body armor: 15
difficulty: 4
hit points: 325
speed rating: 84
shield width: 39

So +4 armor (26%), +53 health (16%), +3 speed, so very well worth it. Full heirloomed weapon has +3 (10%) damage increase now.

[Seawied]

a fully heirloomed weapon might only do +3  base damage, but that gets amplified significantly once you factor in power strike and movement bonus. Shields don't get nearly as amplified.

[rustyspoon]

Here's the regular shield

Heavy Round Shield
weight: 7.5
body armor: 15
difficulty: 4
hit points: 325
speed rating: 84
shield width: 39

So +4 armor (26%), +53 health (16%), +3 speed, so very well worth it. Full heirloomed weapon has +3 (10%) damage increase now.

I'm not saying that heirlooming shields isn't worth it (as any bonus is better than none), more that they've again taken away any reason to use a shield other than the huscarl.

[Konrax]

Can any of the item devs let us know if the shield heirloom will stay?

If so is there going to be a chance to change them?

[Dravic]

Prepatch Steel Shield Stats:


Steel Shield
body armor: 74
difficulty: 6
hit points: 236
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Thick Steel Shield
body armor: 76
difficulty: 6
hit points: 273
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Reinforced Steel Shield
body armor: 79
difficulty: 6
hit points: 299
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31

Masterpiece Steel Shield
body armor: 82
difficulty: 6
hit points: 331
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31


Can't tell about postpatch, because I lost my old character. Can somebody with shield skill 6 or more buy a Steel Shield and go to Retirement section and show its current stats?

[Konrax]

+53 hit points, + 4 armour, +3 speed.

Masterpiece Steel Shield Current Stats
body armor: 78
difficulty: 6
hit points: 289
speed rating: 64
shield width: 31

Masterpiece Steel Shield Previous Stats
body armor: 82
difficulty: 6
hit points: 331
speed rating: 61
shield width: 31