What do you think counters ranged?

[Thorondor]

so we need more kapikulu players ingame

we like to fuck melee up. can't do much about ranged. sorry 

[Thomek]

A heavy lance that can actually kill with a blow to an unarmored head,  mounted on a ninja cav.  good ol times :'/

Still can you shameless lobbyist. You just did it to me the other day from full hp. Skilled lance cav can still reap rewards.. No it's not as easy as it used to be.

[BlueKnight]

Still can you shameless lobbyist. You just did it to me the other day from full hp. Skilled lance cav can still reap rewards.. No it's not as easy as it used to be.

Thomek, you shouldn't call Torben 'shameless lobbyist'. Seriously heavy glance is the worst weapon you can use on horseback, other weapons are way way better. Heavy glance may be good with a very special form of riding like on arabian, where you adjust your timing with your horse's speed and maneuver, not by timing attack properly. For other kind of horses that don't accelerate and slow down this quickly, lance is incomparably better.

Torben is right when it comes to heavy glance and I used to think everyone agreed with that.

[Fartface]

GTXing cRPG.

[Adamar]

GTXing cRPG.

Sure you are

[Torben]

Heavy glance may be good with a very special form of riding like on arabian, where you adjust your timing with your horse's speed and maneuver, not by timing attack properly.

holy crap first time i see sb agree with me on that. thats why im begging at least for a speed buff,  its the most predictable weapon,  ahrg -.-

Still can you shameless lobbyist. You just did it to me the other day from full hp. Skilled lance cav can still reap rewards.. No it's not as easy as it used to be.

god knows why that happened.  I do know that i can hit an archer 2 times in the unarmored head without him dying unless he runs directly into my lance.  which doesnt happen a lot. never.

[CrazyCracka420]

Nothing is in a vacuum, what works in one round versus one enemy team may not work against another.  Everything we're saying is anecdotal and lot of is hyperbole.

Typically speaking, other archers/xbows will counter archers. 
Cavalry (lancers with shields, or 1h/2h) will counter archers.
Horse Ranged will counter ground ranged.
Throwers can counter ranged.
Melee in groups can counter ranged (especially if they have some ranged or cav support).


Using teamwork and tactics can counter any class in the game with pretty much any other class in the game.

I'm tired of the game being balanced for rambo tryhards who have no desire to use a little logic, teamwork, or adaptation to the conditions on the battlefield.  Let these fuckers whine and bitch and complain.  Let them continue bashing their heads into the wall and crying that the dev's won't remove the wall instead of them going around, or over, or under the wall (or asking a friend for a boost over the wall, or for a catapult to destroy the wall).