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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #180 on: October 04, 2013, 08:41:27 pm »
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I won't argue with you about my experience in my town in my country. I don't give a damn about anything else tbh.
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« Reply #181 on: October 04, 2013, 08:41:55 pm »
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #182 on: October 04, 2013, 08:45:13 pm »
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Lol!....Wtf? You are taking news from 1996. Picking single cases and using the "If they had a gun, it could have been avoided" arguments, again proof you are not worth arguing with. Atleast Xant's arguments are somewhat sensible. A friendly suggestion id give you is never use the "If they had a gun, it could have been avoided" arguments. Its like the worst bullshit, you could even say.

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #183 on: October 04, 2013, 08:48:46 pm »
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Don't be a strawman. Of course, you can be lethal with a knife, almost as lethal as with a gun.

Except, muggers and thugs would generally just stab you in the stomach, then mug you and get out of there.
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Best picture i could get, but i imagine a typical handgun will do at least the 30 centimeter penetration damage profile. And that is a 3-dimensional wound, it shreds flesh in all direction of the bullet + potential shards.

What's a knife wound profile?
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See blade.

A bullet to the stomach will kill you, if you don't receive help immediately, and even then it could be lethal.
A stab or two to the stomach most likely won't kill you, if you receive help within reasonable time.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #184 on: October 04, 2013, 08:57:41 pm »
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Don't be a strawman. Of course, you can be lethal with a knife, almost as lethal as with a gun.

Except, muggers and thugs would generally just stab you in the stomach, then mug you and get out of there.
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Best picture i could get, but i imagine a typical handgun will do at least the 30 centimeter penetration damage profile. And that is a 3-dimensional wound, it shreds flesh in all direction of the bullet + potential shards.

What's a knife wound profile?
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See blade.
.. No. That's like showing a picture of a bullet and saying "see bullet." Stab wounds are not made by surgeons in hospitals. The knife never exits the way it went in, and you can widen the wound after the stab - accidentally or on purpose. Living flesh also grabs onto the blade.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #185 on: October 04, 2013, 08:59:05 pm »
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It still won't be anywhere near the damage a bullet will do to flesh, and it's not a deep wound, that could potentially leave you full of metal fragments, depending on the bullet.

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #186 on: October 04, 2013, 09:01:27 pm »
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It still won't be anywhere near the damage a bullet will do to flesh, and it's not a deep wound, that could potentially leave you full of metal fragments, depending on the bullet.
Yes, it will. It can do more damage. Or it can do less damage. It can be a deep wound.

Beyond the point, in any case. Both can be lethal. The real difference is that you can't grab onto a knife and control it. If you manage to block the first attack, you've achieved nothing. The knife is extremely dangerous and tricky to disarm. A gun isn't (as dangerous) to deal with in close quarters. And people's aim with them is terrible in real situations where adrenaline is flowing.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #187 on: October 04, 2013, 09:21:58 pm »
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Lol!....Wtf? You are taking news from 1996. Picking single cases and using the "If they had a gun, it could have been avoided" arguments, again proof you are not worth arguing with. Atleast Xant's arguments are somewhat sensible. A friendly suggestion id give you is never use the "If they had a gun, it could have been avoided" arguments. Its like the worst bullshit, you could even say.

just leave taking a case in your lifetime which isnt even old and telling you the possibility that the outcomes would have been different if they could have defended themselves is completely viable, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing and attempting to belittle me rather than make valid points, sooo shut the fuck up, and get out.

hell atleast Benkei can come back and make an argument with experience, i give him credit, you havent done shit except argue for no reason.

either way it doesnt matter really, knife or gun, they both suck, ive seen peoples forearms hanging off because they were blocking knife attacks, and ive see people with a bullet wound from a little 22lr who died after being shot in the armpit.  They both suck, we have all come to an agreement that both can be deadly or not depending on the situation at hand, being shot in the hand might not be deadly, being stabbed in the hand might not be either, but these are but just instances that could occur, and we can be here for another 10 pages talking about "what if" cases all day long, so in the end:

Lets just talk about my guns,  i have lots, what do you think of them, if you came to the states, id shoot them with you, do you have any yourself?  in Germany you can be apart of a hunting club which keeps your rifle there for you to take hunting, learned that from a neighbor who lived in Germany, and just recently moved back.  I think they said Amsberg was the name of the little town.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #188 on: October 04, 2013, 09:31:15 pm »
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Complains about someone using single cases as an arguement to defend a majority

Then defends his position by comparing large caliber FMJ rounds to a tiny 2inch folding pen knife

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #189 on: October 04, 2013, 09:34:31 pm »
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Complains about someone using single cases as an arguement to defend a majority

Then defends his position by comparing large caliber FMJ rounds to a tiny 2inch folding pen knife

Fail
Read. Post. Then attempt to understand what you read.
just leave taking a case in your lifetime which isnt even old and telling you the possibility that the outcomes would have been different if they could have defended themselves is completely viable, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing and attempting to belittle me rather than make valid points, sooo shut the fuck up, and get out.

hell atleast Benkei can come back and make an argument with experience, i give him credit, you havent done shit except argue for no reason.

either way it doesnt matter really, knife or gun, they both suck, ive seen peoples forearms hanging off because they were blocking knife attacks, and ive see people with a bullet wound from a little 22lr who died after being shot in the armpit.  They both suck, we have all come to an agreement that both can be deadly or not depending on the situation at hand, being shot in the hand might not be deadly, being stabbed in the hand might not be either, but these are but just instances that could occur, and we can be here for another 10 pages talking about "what if" cases all day long, so in the end:

Lets just talk about my guns,  i have lots, what do you think of them, if you came to the states, id shoot them with you, do you have any yourself?  in Germany you can be apart of a hunting club which keeps your rifle there for you to take hunting, learned that from a neighbor who lived in Germany, and just recently moved back.  I think they said Amsberg was the name of the little town.
Fine, fine, just don't call European gun laws medieval.

That AK looks sweet. Not that i'd want to own one, but still.

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #190 on: October 04, 2013, 09:46:03 pm »
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Read. Post. Then attempt to understand what you read.Fine, fine, just don't call European gun laws medieval.

That AK looks sweet. Not that i'd want to own one, but still.

alright sounds fair, i think i can do that, thanks its an Egyptian Maadi, the history on  it goes as followed.  Russia sold the whole plant to Egypt to allow them to manufacture AK's for idk what reason, so then they started producing them from what Russia sold them, then in 1989 President Bush created the ban on the importation of assault weapons into the country, however companies were able to circumvent the law essentially by literally chopping the gun into pieces and destroying the receiver, as gun parts were allowed, but not the gun itself.  So the company Century arms, bought a shit load of these parts and started doing a half as job putting them together, which in turn made the market for AK's drop due to not only how many they produced but how low the quality of the weapon is, so in my case, i purchased this thing for around $700 dollars, its quality is "meh, ok" given that it does not jam, and fires fine, my gripe with it currently is that my top sight is actually twisted to the left, which makes the ironsights kinda weird to use, but i put a red dot sight on it to overcome that problem.  You can buy AK's for as little as 500 bucks, but you run the risk of purchasing a shitty Romanian made one, sorry if you are romanian, but you cant make AK's for shit.  Or you can buy a chinese or russian AK for around 1,000-1,200 bucks, which is quite steep, but you are getting quality which is comparable to what an AR will give you, and what the original AK name lives up to.

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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #191 on: October 04, 2013, 10:51:26 pm »
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Why brings a robber a gun to a robbery in the states? Cuz the shop owner has one too.
Why is the shop owner in EU most likely being rob with a knife or something similar less lethal? Cuz he doesn't have a gun.

Knife over gun all day.

I've generally stayed out of this debate but this is just silly. Most bullets available on the street generally leave small wounds unless they tumble ( which again most civilian available rounds don't). The only time they leave horrific wounds is if they shatter. If they pass clean through the body they are very survivable. On the other hand knives leave deep, wide gashes that can easily tear arteries or hit vital organs. The amount of surface area inside the body a knife stab will affect is much greater than any bullet which leads to much more scarring and greater long term problems. So I really don't understand how knives are less lethal or preferable.


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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #192 on: October 04, 2013, 10:58:48 pm »
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The biggest factor is that trying to stop a knife attack is a fucking nightmare compared to disarming someone's gun. With a knife, there is nothing to grab: your opponent is holding the only non-sharp surface of the knife. There are no bad hits, no aiming required. To make things worse, blood is a good lubricant, and with a knife involved there's going to be plenty, which makes grabbing even the knife hand tricky as fuck - which in itself doesn't do all that much even if you manage it.
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Re: Guns, Guns, and more Guns, Hosted by Inbred Redneck AntiBlitz Ameritrash
« Reply #193 on: October 04, 2013, 11:18:37 pm »
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Whatever the fuck is the most dangerous, i dont care because i dont need a gun to feel safe.

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