Your Opinion on Throwing Lances?

[Life]

+3 lances have nearly the same melee stats as a +3 shortened spear. I think the only difference is one damage on the thrust more for the lances. They are decent melee weapons, very fast, but low damage and range, but fighting a high level melee char with them is usually not a good idea. If you (a melee guy) are getting beaten by a thrower using a lance, it is because the thrower was better than you, not because a +3 shortened spear with +1 pierce damage is an OP weapon.

As a ranged weapon, they're pretty crap. Innaccurate, slow, extremely low ammo and despite what some people say, most of your throws will not be one shots.

All in all, I think they're pretty balanced. I wouldn't give them more ammo, they're in a good place and are one of the more unique playstyles in the mod.

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[Boerenlater]

I love them! Good in melee and awesome as missile. Four is enough also.
A stat bump is always welcome tbh but not that much.

[Turboflex]

if you think they're bad you don't understand throwing well enough and are comparing them with arbalasts or a long bow in a sniping scenario.

They are close to Jarid/Spear stats, but do twice the damage, enough to take off a huge chunk from even someone in plate, and make nice melee weapons when you get caught.

[CrazyCracka420]

Eh I think most throwing weapons do too much damage.  They shouldn't be doing more damage in one shot than some strength/power strike heavy builds. 


I think throwing should be hybrid builds personally, not mobile rocket launchers.

[Abay]

throwing must be effective more I think!

[San]

They counter me. I see one, I run.

[Lt_Anders]

They counter me. I see one, I run.

That's the general attitude i get from most people when I pull out the lances. It's a "OH FUK! DODGE DODGE HOPE TO GOD DODGE" I've had even some heavy heavy hitters(like some of the Walrus's) just back off cause they don't want to take a lance.

If anything, by making them 7 PT, you give throwing lance 70% bonus damage(so, assuming my math is right I do 101p with +2 lances) Pretty scary.

[San]

I think with +3, it's quite a bit above 100 (rough calculation ~118 at 7Pt & 130wpf). It makes sense, because I think they deal more than an arbalest shot. Still not enough to 1shot good armor without a bit of luck/other factors. I believe throwers can also get decent hold(??)/speed bonus values, so a skilled throw could 1shot a good percentage of players. I think throwing weapons also have the extra penetration to armor tag, too. In your face hits like Xeen would do crap loads of damage.

I support increasing slots and ammo, but I can't really give any good opinion.

[Kafein]

I dislike fighting melee throwing lances because of the spammattitude of the users (not looking at you Dood, not at all), but overall they are bad throwing weapons with a decent melee mode, just like HTA.

[Lt_Anders]

Why was this moved. I only wanted opinions

[Rumblood]

I dislike fighting melee throwing lances because of the spammattitude of the users (not looking at you Dood, not at all), but overall they are bad throwing weapons with a decent melee mode, just like HTA.

Limited ammo that hits like a truck and decent at melee. I think they are the most balanced of all throwing weapons.

[Nightmare798]

this is the case of:

the more people use, it the stronger it gets.

personally, as in throwing weapon, they are fine, but their melee capabilities should be nerfed a bit. they can spam even more than quarterstaff users.

[IG_Saint]

I dislike fighting melee throwing lances because of the spammattitude of the users (not looking at you Dood, not at all), but overall they are bad throwing weapons with a decent melee mode, just like HTA.

They're fast, low damage weapons. If you're not spamming at least a bit with 'em, you're doing it wrong

[Adamar]

They should have decreased accuracy when sidestepping. Real life throwers take their footing and ballance very seriously, and maybe this way throwers wouldn't be so eager to spam.

Although they are not a danger as of now, so leave throwers alone!

[Paul]

They should have decreased accuracy when sidestepping.

Let me guess. You are an archer, right?