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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2013, 12:01:45 am »
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Enjoyed it thoroughly, might try it some time
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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2013, 07:39:49 pm »
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Didn't read more than the first few posts. I'm in a 4chan poster sorta mood.

Study after study have been conducted on the subject of violence in video games, and not a one has concluded that violent games predispose individuals to exhibit violent behavior. This part of the argument is over. Its not a fucking issue.

Now, the morality or value torture scenes and the like is still debatable. I haven't played this part of GTA 5 yet, so I can't comment too specifically without missing the mark, but generally speaking I think that it all really depends on how the violence or torture is depicted, and what is being implied. If the game tries to defend the use of torture by, say, having you get the information needed to save the day from evil terrorists, its wrong. That's a nono, imo. I don't want media floating around that says I can throw my morality out the window because I or others are afraid of getting hurt or, Hell, even killed.

From what I gather, GTA's torture isn't just wildly inappropriate entertainment or grossly inappropriate in its message. It seems to be disgusting and unsettling, rather than glibly fun. It can probably be interpreted to have something meaningful to say about violence in the criminal world, and, players willingness to just play along and indulge in that sort of violence--to an extent. But then torture gets involved and suddenly the violence is unsettling...
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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #107 on: September 27, 2013, 08:15:12 pm »
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I really doubt there's any deep, meaningful, moral message implied by rockstar when it comes to the torture mission.

Rockstar knows what the audience expects out of GTA games... Violence, poor driving mechanics, satire comedy and shock/wow factor.
I think the torture scene just goes under the shock/wow factor.

They don't benefit as a game developer trying to add meaningful morality issues to the surface... It's just like in the Godfather game for ps2 when you walk into a store and physically beat up a business owner in creative ways until they agree to pay the mafia a "protection tax"... There's no meaningful message behind it, its just shock/wow factor which goes a long with the pretext of the game/storyline.

I just can't visualize Rockstar game devs at the drawing board, writing on it "We need to make a controversial mission with some meaningful messages on the morality of torture and the players willingness to go along with it"

GTA V isn't about telling you when you can throw your morals out the window and where to draw the line in real life. It is complete fiction. It doesn't translate to real life at all.
I mean do you think Rockstar tries to send the message that it's ok to solicit a prostitutes services and then beat her unconscious after she gives you a blowjob so you can get your 50$ back? 
If so I find that ridiculous.

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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #108 on: September 27, 2013, 10:33:48 pm »
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I mean do you think Rockstar tries to send the message that it's ok to solicit a prostitutes services and then beat her unconscious after she gives you a blowjob so you can get your 50$ back? 

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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #109 on: September 28, 2013, 12:13:10 am »
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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #110 on: September 28, 2013, 01:30:26 am »
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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #111 on: September 28, 2013, 02:38:50 am »
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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #112 on: September 28, 2013, 03:49:20 am »
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make it stop
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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #113 on: September 28, 2013, 05:49:23 am »
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Too many long posts to read.

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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #114 on: September 28, 2013, 07:32:58 am »
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Too many long posts to read.
Thanks for informing us of this important fact.
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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #115 on: September 28, 2013, 07:44:52 am »
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Thanks for informing us of this important fact.

You're welcome. I will do so again in the future.

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Re: GTA 5 Torture Mission (debate inside and no big spoilers hopefully)
« Reply #116 on: September 28, 2013, 10:23:09 am »
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Out of curiosity, which other posts in which other threads did you not read? A comprehensive list would be appreciated.

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