RIP Dedicated throwing

[Seawied]

Here lies dedicated throwers

January 2011 - May 2011

Rest In Peace.

[AlbaTiger]

I guess I should be happy that this happened when my Thrower/Javalry character was just 600,000xp from 31.

Still gutted though as Javalry was easily the most interesting and challenging counter to Horse Archers.

Yes throwing lances were bullshite, yes PT 10 tended to be pretty bullshite, but people who used those were very rare, throwers in general were pretty uncommon, it isn't like the regular throwers were breaking the game.

That said I fully expect the usual ream of "Throwing was OP" comments that EVERY thread about throwing gets, or "good riddance."

[Siiem]

Throwers are bundle of stickss, bundle of stickss don't go to heaven, ergo they will never rest in peace. Only in pieces!

[Dravic]

Here lies dedicated throwers

January 2011 - May 2011

Rest In Peace Hell.

[Radix]

oh stop crying, dedicated xbowers are in worse situation than any other class yet no one is crying bout them.

[Spawny]

oh stop crying, dedicated xbowers are in worse situation than any other class yet no one is crying bout them.

Euhmm... No?

Tried throwing after the patch? I did with with xbows. Little less powerfull overall, needed 1 more hit to kill a full hp target. That was about it. You don't need any skill other than a strength requirement, so it's not that hard to get high agility and high wpf. You're still as accurate as ever with 150+ wpf, without sacrificing killing power.

Throwing got ammo reduced by 40%-50% on all throwing weapons but the ones with a 1-2 PT requirement.
Accuracy with high PT is HORRIBLE. My reticule with heavy throwing axes is about 3-4x bigger. Same goes for most throwing weapons. Rocks/shuriken went from pinpoint accurate to about as accurate as throwing with your eyes closed.
Throwing projectile speed got yet another reduction.
Since you need much higher wpf to get a bit accurate than before, you can't get to 10 or higher PT anymore without rediculously bad accuracy. This in turn vastly decreases throwing damage for all weapons, requiring more hits for a kill. Not 1 more, it's in the order of 2-3 hits more.

Upside:
When I retire, I can start building an agility thrower. I'll make it with 7 or 8 PT and enough agility to take a run for it when I feel like it.
Combine that with throwing rocks and make you all stagger so you get killed.

[Tomas_of_Miles]

oh stop crying, dedicated xbowers are in worse situation than any other class yet no one is crying bout them.

Crossbows are in a lovely place, I'd say they really don't need anything done to them from now on.
And I miss throwers, weirdly enough. There was a point were I thought the game was well balanced recently. I think we have past that balance now.

[22nd_King_Plazek]

Please tell me how this is a viable class anymore?
I can only carry a maximum of 3 javelins if I want to be able to carry a two handed weapon, the only other options being 0 slot weapons. Which I cant do because I have only 2h and throwing proficiency. None of the other throwing weapons are viable either when on a horse, the axes are simply useless on horseback and the throwing darts do not do enough damage to be particularly effective against even light horses.

The javelin is less accurate than an archer, does less damage than an archer, has less ammo than an archer. The only advantage perhaps that you can throw faster than an archer can shoot, which is an "issue" that could be solved seperately. So why does a javelin take up the same number of slots as a strongbow and a set of arrows? They are not equal in power. On horse or on foot. Even a light crossbow would be more viable for me now I suspect. Despite the required power throw and weapon proficiency throwing seems worse despite needing the same amount of skills.

The throwing cavalryman was rare enough. It is not like throwing or javelins were over-powered anyway. Especially on horseback, its only real purpose was to take out the horses of enemy lancers and horse archers considering how throwing is so inaccurate aiming for the rider is actually pointless. I used to be able to take at least two or maybe three light horses out with them before and contribute to the team.

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There goes my hybridity 
I doubt you even considered the effect on horse throwers that these changes would have, it is such a rare class. But it seems that now if these changes stick that a once viable and interesting class is gone for good.

[Dom.Miguel]

Throwers are bundle of stickss, bundle of stickss don't go to heaven, ergo they will never rest in peace. Only in pieces!

Where do you think lol stabbers go? Retarded javs taking 2 slots

[NuberT]

Feels like most of the throwers are archers now...

[Dan lol]

rip an overpowered easy class born from weapons that are meant to be a supplement to melee

[Dom.Miguel]

rip an overpowered easy class born from weapons that are meant to be a supplement to melee

And that now its useless even for that!

[Nemeth]

Yes throwing lances were bullshite, yes PT 10 tended to be pretty bullshite, but people who used those were very rare, throwers in general were pretty uncommon, it isn't like the regular throwers were breaking the game.

Actually, I think you got that that the other way around. People usually didn't cry about pure throwers, since yes, they hit hard, but the trade off for that was that the lack of agi made them unable to backpedall to safety while still throwing shit at you. If they didnt kill you while you were closing in at them, they died.
The hybrids, on the other hand, could easily take 1/3 of your hp in single throwing axe, then backpeddal easily while still throwing shit at you and when they felt like they wasted enough ammo, they just switched to their main weapon with full wpf and fought you like pure melee. If they killed you, they just collected their missed axes from the ground and procceded to next target.

[Digglez]

i dont get why axes got the hardest hit.  Carrying 4 axes it alot easier than carrying javalin tyle projectiles.

[San]

Hopefully, we can at least deliver 10% damage on our inaccurate war darts.